And one more time for the hard-of-hearing, fuel was spilled at the crash site. I wrote a reply to this this morning, but either it failed to post or I chickened out. So, I'll post it now: So what! There is this thing called "unusable fuel" and I'm thinking that there was a lot of discussi...

And one more time for the hard-of-hearing, fuel was spilled at the crash site. No - the report says fuel was spilled at the crash site and if you dont beleive the report is anything other than a cover up, why would you beleive that anything in the report is factual? like for example Boeing supporti...

Actually thinking about it, if you want to cover up out of fuel and use ice, you dont come up with some crap like this. You contaminate the samples with water to show that there was excessive water there in the first place, bung that through the super cold and say hey presto there was too much water...

From the FAR (b) No flight crewmember may engage in, nor may any pilot in command permit, any activity during a critical phase of flight which could distract any flight crewmember from the performance of his or her duties or which could interfere in any way with the proper conduct of those duties. A...

you still reckon out of fuel?

Yes.

Fair do's, but I reckon if it was out of fuel, it would have been a damn site easier for BA to have let the investigation find that, sack the crew and pin the blame on some Chinese fueler.

What they have proved is that there is an industry wide lack of knowledge about ice in fuel.

I think what they've proven is that they lack the gonadal fortitude to say what really occurred here.

you still reckon out of fuel?

I also loved some of the reasons why you should discount the higher temperature readings from weather stations In Britain, a weather station at Manchester airport was built when the surrounding land was mainly fields but is now surrounded by heat-generating buildings. So the good news, there isn't r...

The thing with the British press is you should always read the last two paragraphs! The European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts has recently issued a new set of global temperature readings covering the past 30 years, with thermometer readings augmented by satellite data. Dr Vicky Pope, he...

I cannot get excited about computer generated movies. I'm sorry, I just can't. The thing that made me want to go and see it was that it was not run of the mill "computer generated" i.e. an animation with actors reading a voice over from a lectern. The scenes were all acted out by actors o...

I found it a bit odd that the following are all mentioned in the report a) there seemed to be an element of uniqueness as to how long the flight/fuel spent at the extremely low temperatures b) as fuel temperature is lowered more water changes from entrained to free c) it is the free water rather tha...

Huh?

Or in some cases minutes... hours... days...

Lets also be clear about the "overseas" bit - to and from Canada, Mexico, Hawaii, the Caribbean and Central America. So what that really means is "where our main competition is other US legacy and low cost carriers" Where the competition is long haul Asian/Middle Eastern/European...

I cannot get excited about computer generated movies. I'm sorry, I just can't.

Tell that to this guy......



PS....Stop lookin' at his Moose knuckle

Is that Uncle Dale

I hope thats not at Schippol

In spite of a very short time period and some appropriate harassment from one Andrew Troop, there are already two genuine complaints about this livery...

Has the subject of personal hygiene been raised?

No, but there has been some trimming and a union between an older and younger thread.

What if the pilots truly were dead-dog tired, and functioning like zombies, and even "drifted out of normal conciousness". How would you reconcile that with this? ...board member Robert Sumwalt blasted the crew for engaging in almost a steady stream of extraneous conversation during much ...

Again--it comes down to airmanship and experience to make the judgement----and the best place to get that initial experience is in a sailplane.

Yeah - the down side being that it is insanely satisfying and brilliant fun, leaving very little to grumble about as an "apprentice"

You know when we were flying and I was worried we might hit something in the storm and you said the only thing we could possibly hit at this height was a cloud stuffed with rocks?
Well?
How did you know?

Are you drunk?

Are you karl?

about half cut - but still got a few more to get through

I really should read the second page before hitting the post reply button

There is a back-story, 3WE. I will tell it too you soon...

Tell! Tell!

I missed the screamin emu debacle

I am a groupie. You control my mind. Please provide instructions. It has been a long time.

Indeed

It is amazing how high strung the JP.net group are.

So--now I have sent both FBN and Dale White into therapy.

you should charge a referral fee

OK, who was the FASCIST LIBERAL who screwed the Forum up to begin with?

Well that would be Kilroy - but are you referring to this time round

Baby survives after buggy rolls under train

As a parent this scares the living crap out of me. You try to be vigilent 100% of the time - but especially with more under 5s than hands, there are brief moments when at least 1 of them isn't being watched.

"Home, home again
I like to be here, when I can"

"And when I come home cold and tired,
It's good to warm my bones beside the fire."

Far away across the field
The tolling of the iron bell