...his point wasn't so much the spin issue, but, rather, that Cirri were sold as transportation airplanes to pilots not really prepared for transportation flying ...many (if not most) of his target audience probably lacked the skills and proficiency to operate these "personal airliners" s...

Hmm... is the old "I have the aircraft" / "your aircraft" routine no longer in fashion?

It is. We say "I have control/you have control" which is close enough.

Unfortunately, traditional cowboy idiocy is all too common...

...Listened to ATC comms with the pilot. The whole time she sounds totally calm and unmoved by the situation, while the controllers sound a little sloppy. I don't know if there was some training going on at the tower as well, I heard at least three separate controllers. One easy trap to fall into i...

...And if pulling the chute is the way to recover from a pin in the Cirrus and the pilots are trained to do it... Why don't they do it?... Because (Based on known instances of Cirrus chute deployment): -You probably just kissed your $250,000 airplane good bye. -You have a pretty good chance of gett...

...It is not easy to test. Spin must be tested power on, power off, flaps up, flaps down, forward CG, aft CG, minimum weight, max weight, high inertia (wing tanks full), low inertia (wing tanks minimum fuel), starting wings level, starting in a left bank, starting in a right bank, starting with pro...

...and all the dissection aside, the question really isn't THAT the plane spun in, but why (how) would someone spin a perfectly good plane in severe daytime VMC...(although that question may have some similarities as to why someone would stall a perfectly good plane for 36,000 feet in night IMC).

...it doesn't meet the traditional spin recovery requirements because it was not tested [& additional nuances]... Noted . Now, given that it's pretty easy to test , I'm going to parlour-ass-ume that (just like the one-autopilot go-around), there may be something more to the story than your blac...

...Please explain the "struggles to recover" part... 1. I read this on some obscure aviation fora many times , so it must be true. Or maybe not...that's the trouble with ass-hat parlour talk and www.internet.com 2. A certain forumite with a username similar to En La Sombra stated many tim...

The actual crash. Spin, no doubt. http://www.infobae.com/america/eeuu/2016/06/11/video-la-impactante-caida-de-un-avion-sobre-un-auto/ By the way, it was a Cirrus, which struggles to recover from a spin , equipped with whole-frame parachute, and (reportedly) it fell from quite high. So either the pi...

Probably should mention that supposedly there were botched 3 landing attempts... potentially some incapacitation / CO?

...a number of 'angles' on this one. https://www.yahoo.com/news/three-dead-crash-plane-uses-125338939.html Eyewitness reports 'stall like final dive' from a higher altitude. ATC reports the pilot was struggling to ID the correct runway at Hobby. ATC also told them to go around (not really their job...

I cannot believe that this photo was rejected by you expletive screeners. It’s a unique spotting location and a unique plane and who cares if I got the plane type wrong (looks like a 707 to me). I can’t see any dust spots and disagree with the over/under exposure complaints as well as the sharpening...

Strange.

Can't blame Sickbag...goats involved, not_donkeys.

So...Airbuses CAN make meaningful contributions to society.

I wonder if he ever operated one of these ? The procedures are pretty simple for this cheap composite crackerbox , but most folks who operate them, will at some point display some Cowboy Idiocy , or have a brief human-factors lapse in situational awareness resulting in near-total disasters . This al...

...so whenever I see these folks protesting against Trump, it makes me want to vote for him...

...and because, as stated in an other thread, I think Trump might irritate Evan.

Yet pigs cannot fly! wrong OMG! That is too cool. Do you think it comes with a procedures manual? JetPictures.net is again PWNED buy AD.Info! Amazing how a little open mindedness and humour can result in conversations that are much more intelligent and fun. Contrast that with this: http://forums.je...

I bet I know what part of it says...

In case of fire:

1. Procure knife and fork
2. Carve
3. Enjoy bacon

For a Hampshire, sure, but what about a Duroc?

Who cares about autobrakes? Here is some much more critical, and complicated automation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw9jHC9zRJA and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dain-lD2Gv0 Sooo many parallels, complexities, near total disaster potential, hydraulic valves, operate-by-wire, cheap composites...

...I'll elaborate...this is what flyboy2548m does... Thank you. Aviation stuff is cool. Your comments provide insight into the thinking behind all of this and a number of nuances and intangibles not_found in Evan's out-dated FCOMs nor on the internet. I am always impressed at how airplane brakes re...

...or wait...that's an exact copy/paste, isn't it...

I'm honestly not real sure what the sudden interest in autobrakes is. Why are they such a big deal all of a sudden? Because we wish Evan had them? 8-) I think if Not_Karl put any kind of post asking for the autobrake procedures on an Airbus, Evan would be spewing all kinds of possibly out-dated, ac...

the more I read LSD-744's stuff, the more I think my intentional misspelling has a major portion of truth. I for one do not see where the confusion becomes blue cheese. Airplanes, in spite of all our efforts, still occasionally fall from the sky. Yet pigs cannot fly! What does this mean for us? Not...

Why are they such a big deal all of a sudden? They're not that big of a deal. I was kind of curious, you kind of answered my inquiry and Not_Karl jumped on your comment that you don't like them all that much... ...because it fuels the irony, contrast and humor of Evan and his Uber-procedural-comput...

I should also ask if we should punish manual flying and not using auto-aids in any specific way. I'm kind of ashamed to have put Boeing Bobby and VNav in such a similar context. I think they both could provide some outstanding, entertaining commentary, even though there'd be some important, type-sp...