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Ottawa bus wreck

Postby ocelot » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:02 am

Double-decker bus ingests roof of bus stop. They did died. :-(
Summary link: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/o ... -1.4976342

Apparently the driver was arrested, but then released, without any explanation other than a caution against jumping to conclusions. Also there's a report of an upset and control problems prior to the crash. Could get interesting...

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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby AnMariner » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:19 am

I'm trying to understand this one. You have a bus stop designed to kill passengers in double deck buses?
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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby monchavo » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:17 am

I'm trying to understand this one. You have a bus stop designed to kill passengers in double deck buses?
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I think I can help here.

North America typically has not used double decker buses really ever. The double deckers are a UK phenomenon which are very popular (the norm) in London. The legacy facilities did not anticipate the use of double decker units.

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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby J » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:36 pm

The following article includes additional photographs that show the tall bus stuck the overhead canopy causing severe damage to the upper deck. The accident occurred along Ottawa Transit's Transitway (no private vehicles). I've ridden it several times and the busses move along pretty quickly as thee are no intersections and they approach stations at a fairly high speed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/b ... -1.4975385

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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby 3WE » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:19 pm

Who do we blame?

The driver?
The scientific engineers who built the overhang?
The engineers that suggested the bus for the route?
Greedy executives who chose a more efficient bus in spite of the risk that a driver might forget a station-specific procedure?

We need more regulations!
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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby J » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:27 pm

Who do we blame?

The driver?
The scientific engineers who built the overhang?
The engineers that suggested the bus for the route?
Greedy executives who chose a more efficient bus in spite of the risk that a driver might forget a station-specific procedure?

We need more regulations!
You need to add the possibility of mechanical failure.
Perhaps we will ultimately learn that the driver was distracted by the fuel management system that was spoofed by a rear seat passenger who had eaten beans and when she glanced back up to the windscreen began relentlessly pulling the wheel to the left but was thwarted by the DUM (Driver Utility Monitor ) which had detected the approaching bus stop and steered the bus directly into the canopy.

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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby monchavo » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:47 pm

The following article includes additional photographs that show the tall bus stuck the overhead canopy causing severe damage to the upper deck. The accident occurred along Ottawa Transit's Transitway (no private vehicles). I've ridden it several times and the busses move along pretty quickly as thee are no intersections and they approach stations at a fairly high speed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/b ... -1.4975385
I have often eyed the dedicated roadways that some public transport can use to get from point to point. I've seen them in Canada and Southern California, I am sure there's one in the OC.

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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby ocelot » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:25 pm

I'm trying to understand this one. You have a bus stop designed to kill passengers in double deck buses?
Whole series of them.

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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby ocelot » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:26 pm

I have often eyed the dedicated roadways that some public transport can use to get from point to point. I've seen them in Canada and Southern California, I am sure there's one in the OC.
Oh and: Ottawa has a tonne of these.

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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby monchavo » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:01 pm

I have often eyed the dedicated roadways that some public transport can use to get from point to point. I've seen them in Canada and Southern California, I am sure there's one in the OC.
Oh and: Ottawa has a tonne of these.
RIght, but it doesn't appear to have been an issue here - rather- legacy layout and new vehicle collided.

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Re: Ottawa bus wreck

Postby ocelot » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:45 am

Some followup: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottwa/ai ... -1.5257282
38 criminal charges laid, not much real info.


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