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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby 3WE » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:48 pm

***Ocelots jetphoto***

Oh the composite ironing horse total disaster!
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby Not_Karl » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:56 am

Verbie's planes crash even before they are able to fly :?
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby Ancient Mariner » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:13 pm

Not_Karl wrote:Verbie's planes crash even before they are able to fly :?

Much safer that way,
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby J » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:50 pm

Here is a current news story showing damage to at least one or two of the fuselages (earth mover carrying cockpit, etc.) I suspect all 6 will be cut up on the spot.
http://www.kwch.com/news/local-news/train-carrying-737-fuselages-derails-in-montana/26803140

Here is a photo of another train carrying additional parts. According to the caption this train was being expedited to make up for the earlier loss.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=488476&nseq=0

In years past a number of automobile assembly plants were located on the west coast and were supplied with parts that were shipped by rail from the Midwest. Occasionally we would have what was known as a "shutdown car." If the car did not reach the assembly plant by a certain time the plant would have to cease production and, supposedly, the railroad would have to pay significant damages including the wages of the idled staff. With Boeing releasing several 737's each week I suspect a similar situation exists and the replacement fuselages were being rushed in an effort to keep production moving.

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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby J » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:56 pm

End of Story for Derailed 737's

They're being scrapped nearby and hauled away by truck. Here's an article with a few photographs.

http://missoulian.com/crews-dismantling-boeing-fuselages-pulled-from-river/article_d99e81e0-1386-11e4-93eb-0019bb2963f4.html

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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby reubee » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:55 am

Trainspotters worst nightmare

http://youtu.be/kBBK2hjcPuA
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby Ancient Mariner » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:37 pm

reubee wrote:Trainspotters worst nightmare

http://youtu.be/kBBK2hjcPuA


Now that was funny, but hey, it had a great diesel loco pushing it along.
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby 3WE » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:55 pm

reubee wrote:Trainspotters worst nightmare

http://youtu.be/kBBK2hjcPuA


Indeed. They could not see the livery.
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby 3WE » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:13 am

THERE HAS BEEN A NEAR TOTAL TRAIN DISASTER!!!!!!!!!

...or...

Does the extreme lack of composites contribute to the resilience demonstrated here?

?????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8gV4DJZUw
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby Not_Karl » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:53 pm

3WE wrote:THERE HAS BEEN A NEAR TOTAL TRAIN DISASTER!!!!!!!!!

...or...

Does the extreme lack of composites contribute to the resilience demonstrated here?

?????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8gV4DJZUw

Just think of all the steel that it's being wasted on useless rails!
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby 3WE » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:39 pm

Not_Karl wrote:
3WE wrote:THERE HAS BEEN A NEAR TOTAL TRAIN DISASTER!!!!!!!!!

...or...

Does the extreme lack of composites contribute to the resilience demonstrated here?

?????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8gV4DJZUw

Just think of all the steel that it's being wasted on useless rails!


I think the rails may improve fuel efficiency and the ride somewhat.
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby J » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:23 pm

The forum has been a bit quiet lately so how about a nice freight train video? Here are two intermodal trains heading towards the New York City area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&v=5ZN5tYIBvlA&x-yt-cl=85114404

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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby Robert Hilton » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:40 pm

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Worked on a few of these. Lint 41, Mercedes flat six diesel/electric units.

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Re: Railroad Thread

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One of them on the stands being prepared for a powerpack change

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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby 3WE » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:53 pm

The racing trains-and being neck and neck and matched speed like that-was quite the catch. Got to believe that before too long one would be slowed down and moved over.
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TOTAL RAILROAD DISASTER 5/12/2015

Postby 3WE » Wed May 13, 2015 8:18 pm

Amtrak from Washington DC to NYC Derails. Did they died: 7 :(

Preliminary report that it was going 100+ MPH into a curve limited to 50 MPH.

I blame human factors.

So, being somewhat serious- it would appear we could really use some sort of [improved] automated warning system- that's only fractionally as complicated as all the stuff our airline drivers have.

Bitching Betty/Ben: Curve ahead...slow down....curve ahead...slow down. Overspeed...overspeed...

And maybe a dang power killer brake applicator (Ought to be simpler than a stick shaker and autothrottles and autobrakes and a TOGA button.)
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby ocelot » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:56 am

You know trains have those, right?

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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby 3WE » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:57 am

Not for that location at the time of the crash.
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Total Train Disaster...

Postby 3WE » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:29 pm

Two trains collide near me a couple of years back- all train crew walked away, and they collapsed and highway bridge and two carloads of folks tried their hand at aviation and they didn't died. :)

The ironing is that this was the third train crash at this particular location in about a 2-year period. One crash was a severe thunderstorm "downburst" that blew several automobile carriers off the track....all laying nice and neat on the north side of the track....(The ironing of that compared to aviation wind shear is thick).

....then as an BNSF train passed, it fell off the tracks...a relatively minor affair, quickly cleaned up.

My ass-hat parlour speculation was that all of these trains plowing up the road bed and subsequent repairs might have resulted in some sort of wire fault....

But, as I read the report, it is crazy old fashioned double-brain-fart human factors....looks like the Engineer was having diabetic issues and the conductor was a bit zoned out and they blew threw four signals and smacked the crossing train at ~40 MPH. (all thanks to various recording devices).

I'm sure Evan would give his standard over-zealous condemnation of the crew and the hiring process and duty hour regs and the greedy corporate bean counters (with at least a modicum of validity), and I know Brian would move this to the OT forum, even though this sort of thing is so incredibly relevant to our gallant professionals who zoom through the air at much faster speeds, with much greater control responsibilities and a lot more things on their memory checklists and QRH than reading back what color the signal is, confirming speed and blowing long long short long for every road they pass....

:roll:






http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Acci ... AB1414.pdf
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby 3WE » Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:31 pm

Corrected link

http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Acci ... AR1402.pdf

Engineer and conductor "blow through" four signals, dutifully following read-back instructions, except it's the middle of the night and they were struggling with sleep hour disruption...yada yada....
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby Not_Karl » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:36 pm

Air Koryo's 360° cockpit made me remind this series of panoramic views taken in "Taller Polvorín", the workshop where several types of Buenos Aires Underground's rolling stock are maintained, repaired and stored.

Types of rolling stock visible in the pictures (please excuse the sub metrophotos.net quality and differing liveries):

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Línea A's "Brujas" ("Witches" :P) , made by La Brugeoise in Bruges -Brujas in Spanish, hence the nickname-, Belgium, delivered in 1913 and 1919 (deliveries stopped during WWI...) and refurbished to their current metro-only look (they originally were a combination of metro and tramway, but the surface level route was removed making the lower entries unnecesary, and apparently the original design with big windows was a little light and flimsy) in Taller Polvorín in 1927. They ran until their replacement with composite-crackerboxes in January, 2013 :cry: :cry: :cry: .

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Línea A' EMEPAs. Original "Brujas", horribly refurbished/defaced by EMEPA in the late '80s with metal bodies and plastic seats. Retired in January, 2013.

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Siemens O&K, originally from lines C, D and E. Made in Germany and delivered in the '30s, refurbished to their current look by Igarreta in the '70s. Currently only a few are running as the exclusive type on line H, and two newly refurbished train sets (one by Alstom Argentina and the other by EMEPA) in line A. A lot more were to be refurbished, but the plans were apparently scrapped amidst rising costs.

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FIAT MATERFER. Made in Argentina in the '80s, originally for Línea D, currently running on both the D and A lines.

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Línea D's Alstom Metropolis. Made in Brazil and Argentina between 2004 and 2009.
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby Peter_K » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:14 pm

What this thread needs is an Indiana Jones Nazi gold train kind of story, so here is one in case you haven't heard already:

'Nazi gold train': Poland asks treasure hunters to stop search

Officials believe they have found the train said to carry gems and other valuables and urge enthusiasts to let them secure site


Poland has appealed to second world war buffs and rail enthusiasts to stop searching for a Nazi train believed to have lain undiscovered for 70 years and rumoured to carry treasure.

Authorities say they believe they have located the train in the county of Wałbrzych, after they were tipped off by a German and a Pole who said last week that they had found it and expected a finder’s fee of 10%.
Fortune hunters flock to Polish town after alleged find of Nazi gold train
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The culture ministry said “foragers” had since become active in the area and urged them to stop, saying they risked harming themselves.

“I’m certain the train exists, but it might contain dangerous material,” said Piotr Żuchowski, the head of national heritage at the ministry. “This is an appeal for any further investigations to be put on hold until we have finished the necessary official procedures relating to securing the site.”

Local news reports say the train, believed to be military, went missing in 1945, packed with loot from the then eastern German city of Breslau – now called Wrocław and part of Poland – as Soviet Red Army forces closed in.

Reports said the train contained up to 300 tonnes of gold, as well as a batch of diamonds, other gems and industrial equipment. According to local folklore, it entered a tunnel in the mountainous Lower Silesian region and never emerged. The tunnel was later closed and its location long forgotten.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/a ... top-search

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Total Train Disaster: 3/14/2016

Postby 3WE » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:34 pm

Typical Amtrak fashion, big heavy coaches tend to slow kind of gently from 75 MPH so they didn't died.

Conversely, if you ran the stats vs. the number of passengers hauled and the hours operated and movements, there might be some things that would inspire lots of keyboard-parlour-advice, including procedures and regulations.

http://news.yahoo.com/amtrak-says-train ... 46440.html

(Reuters) - Several cars on an Amtrak train derailed in southwestern Kansas early on Monday, and about 20 passengers were injured, the U.S. train service said.

Several coaches from Amtrak's Southwest Chief Train 4 traveling from Los Angeles to Chicago derailed about 20 miles (32 km) west of Dodge City, Amtrak said in a statement. There were about 128 passengers and 14 crew aboard.

About 20 passengers were taken to hospitals in Garden City and Dodge City. Amtrak gave no details on their conditions, but in an earlier statement had said that initial reports were that there were no life-threatening injuries.

Other passengers were transported to a recreation center in Cimarron before being provided alternate transportation to their final destination.

The accident occurred on track owned by BNSF Railway Co, according to Amtrak. It said the train had two locomotives and nine cars and Amtrak was working with BNSF to determine the cause of the accident.

Local media reported that five cars of the Amtrak passenger train derailed. Images on media websites showed cars either on their side or leaning. The derailment forced the closure of U.S. Highway 50.

Passenger Daniel Szczerba posted pictures on Twitter showing several cars lying on their side and another leaning over. Szczerba, who wrote on Twitter that he was uninjured, also posted a short video showing the emergency response, with what appeared to be passengers or local residents milling near the derailed cars.

The mother of one passenger told local television that her daughter was helped out of a window after the derailment, which followed a period of the train shaking at about 75 miles (121 km) per hour.

Amtrak said its Southwest Chief Train 3, operating from Chicago to Los Angeles, would detour from Newton, Kansas, to Albuquerque, New Mexico, on Monday.

In one of Amtrak's deadliest recent accidents, eight people were killed last May when a New York-bound train derailed in Philadelphia. Forty-three others were seriously injured in the accident when the train entered a curve at more than twice the recommended speed, investigators found.

(Reporting by Chris Michaud and Ian Simpson. Editing by Ralph Boulton and W Simon)
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Re: Railroad Thread

Postby J » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:44 pm

You can't write a rule to prevent stupid. A feed truck apparently drove into the track somewhere away from a crossing and shifted the rails about a foot causing the kink that derailed the train.

Feed Truck Shifted Track Before Kansas Amtrak Derailment

A truck used to deliver feed to a business where cattle are fattened hit a train track and shifted it at least a foot before an Amtrak train derailed in southwest Kansas and injured at least 32 people, an investigator said Tuesday.

National Transportation Safety Board member Earl Weener did not say if the feed truck was the cause of the Amtrak Southwest Chief’s accident the day earlier.

But he said the impact of the truck from the Cimarron Crossing Feeders LLC shifted the train tracks 12 to 14 inches. The train was traveling 60 mph when the engineer applied the emergency brake, stopping 18 seconds later after traveling another 919 feet.


http://www.claimsjournal.com/news/midwest/2016/03/18/269510.htm

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https://twitter.com/NTSB/status/709856963576918017/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


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