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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Ancient Mariner » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:25 pm

Verbal wrote:
Ancient Mariner wrote:That is maybe why we are a fairly happy, fairly prosperous country with a fairly low crime rate.

Breivik.


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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Verbal » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:38 am

A MALE politician has revealed how he was brutally raped by a Somalian refugee, but says he felt "guilt and responsibility" when the criminal was deported back to his homeland.

Kartsen Nordal Hauken, a member of Norway's Socialist Left Party, was raped by the man in his own home, leading him to "become numb" for years as he turned to alcohol and marijuana to forget the horrific atrocity.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/659180/Male-politician-raped-Somali-refugee
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Ancient Mariner » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:15 am

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A MALE politician has revealed how he was brutally raped by a Somalian refugee, but says he felt "guilt and responsibility" when the criminal was deported back to his homeland.

Kartsen Nordal Hauken, a member of Norway's Socialist Left Party, was raped by the man in his own home, leading him to "become numb" for years as he turned to alcohol and marijuana to forget the horrific atrocity.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/659180/Male-politician-raped-Somali-refugee


He is not a politician, just a member of a marginal left wing party.
This came out in a TV program in which idiots got their 15 minutes by revealing their psychical ailings.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Verbal » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:56 pm

P-8A patrol plane draws broad interest among US allies -Pentagon
Reuters News 04/09/2016
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WASHINGTON, April 8 (Reuters) - American allies including Norway and Singapore have expressed interest in acquiring Boeing 's P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol plane, Deputy U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Work said on Friday ahead of visit by a British counterpart expected to focus on a proposed P-8A purchase.

"There's a lot of interest from our allies," Work said in an interview.

"Norway would like to buy them. The Singaporeans have indicated they have an interest. So it's just a great, great airplane."

The Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA), which oversees foreign arms sales, notified Congress last month that it approved the sale of up to nine P-8A Poseidon aircraft to Britain in a deal valued at up to $3.2 billion.

Britain announced its intention to buy the submarine-hunting patrol planes in November as part of a plan to increase defense and security spending by 12 billion pounds ($16.95 billion) to 178 billion pounds ($251.43 billion) over the next decade.

Next week, Work will host Britain's Minister of State for Defence Procurement, Philip Dunne, and together visit U.S. Navy's P-8A Integrated Training Center at Naval Air Station Jacksonville in Florida.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Ancient Mariner » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:21 am

Our venerable Orions are getting long in the tooth, maybe time for something new.
Expect a P.O to arrive by mail pigeon in, say 25 years time.
For all our Viking excellence and virtues, our politicians are not exactly known for their decision making capabilities. :roll:

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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Not_Karl » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:04 pm

Dear Per:
Are you, your government and your fellow Norwegian taxpayers aware that the P-8 is based on an obsolete, non 21st-century design? :o :shock:
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Ancient Mariner » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:17 pm

Not_Karl wrote:Dear Per:
Are you, your government and your fellow Norwegian taxpayers aware that the P-8 is based on an obsolete, non 21st-century design? :o :shock:


That's OK, by the time they're delivered we will start evaluating the replacements for the F35, which coincidently probably are obsolete by the time they enter service. What jokes.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Verbal » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:40 pm

Norway F-16s shoot up control tower

(CNN) Norwegian defense officials are investigating how one of their fighter jets fired on a control tower during exercises over an island off the country's west coast this month, something that's not unprecedented.

Norwegian Royal Air Force F-16s were practicing attacks on simulated targets on Tarva island early April 13 when cannon fire from the fighter jets tore into a control tower, almost striking three people inside, Maj. Stian Roen told CNN.

None of the three, who were described as "controlling the targets," were injured. "We are thankful for that," Roen said.

F-16s are armed with a six-barrel, 20 mm Gatling gun, capable of firing 6,000 rounds per minute.

Norwegian officials did not say how many rounds hit the tower. They said the rounds were "cold bullets" used only for training and had no explosives in them.

Roen said a commission of six people headed by an F-16 pilot has been appointed to investigate.

If precedent is any guide, that probe may take a long time. A similar incident from 2009 -- an F-16 firing on and hitting the same tower -- is still under investigation, Roen said.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/25/europe/norway-fighter-jets-fire-on-control-tower/index.html
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Ancient Mariner » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:32 pm

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Norway F-16s shoot up control tower

(CNN) Norwegian defense officials are investigating how one of their fighter jets fired on a control tower during exercises over an island off the country's west coast this month, something that's not unprecedented.

Norwegian Royal Air Force F-16s were practicing attacks on simulated targets on Tarva island early April 13 when cannon fire from the fighter jets tore into a control tower, almost striking three people inside, Maj. Stian Roen told CNN.

None of the three, who were described as "controlling the targets," were injured. "We are thankful for that," Roen said.

F-16s are armed with a six-barrel, 20 mm Gatling gun, capable of firing 6,000 rounds per minute.

Norwegian officials did not say how many rounds hit the tower. They said the rounds were "cold bullets" used only for training and had no explosives in them.

Roen said a commission of six people headed by an F-16 pilot has been appointed to investigate.

If precedent is any guide, that probe may take a long time. A similar incident from 2009 -- an F-16 firing on and hitting the same tower -- is still under investigation, Roen said.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/25/europe/norway-fighter-jets-fire-on-control-tower/index.html


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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby 3WE » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:13 pm



After reading a thread on the need for regulations regarding reservation systems, I find this refreshing, if not downright totally friggin awesome!

...and clearly some cowboy improvisation and human involvement in lieu of FBW systems! :clap:
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Ancient Mariner » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:59 pm

Happened in Bodø, North of Norway.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Not_Karl » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:01 pm


This looks like it might be an aviation safety issue :shock:
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Ancient Mariner » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:52 am

Oh, no. They do it all the time and they are all highly trained professional. During winter they use studded boots for traction.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby elaw » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:01 pm


Hmm... based on Evan's assertion that all pilots are incompetent and will fly their airplanes into the ground, I'm surprised the opposite didn't happen here and the guys accidentally get the plane airborne.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Not_Karl » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:39 am

Ancient Mariner wrote:During winter they use studded boots for traction and akkevit as antifreeze.
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Fixed? :mrgreen:
elaw wrote:Hmm... based on Evan's assertion that all pilots are incompetent and will fly their airplanes into the ground, I'm surprised the opposite didn't happen here and the guys accidentally get the plane airborne.

We can assume that procedure was correctly followed.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby 3WE » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:56 am

Not_Karl wrote:
elaw wrote:Hmm... based on Evan's assertion that all pilots are incompetent and will fly their airplanes into the ground, I'm surprised the opposite didn't happen here and the guys accidentally get the plane airborne.

We can assume that procedure was correctly followed.


Wrong.

We should assume that procedure was not_correctly followed and we should offer liberal outsider advice on how it should be done.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby reubee » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:06 am

Not_Karl wrote:
Ancient Mariner wrote:During winter they use studded boots for traction and akkevit as antifreeze.
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Fixed? :mrgreen:
elaw wrote:Hmm... based on Evan's assertion that all pilots are incompetent and will fly their airplanes into the ground, I'm surprised the opposite didn't happen here and the guys accidentally get the plane airborne.

We can assume that procedure was correctly followed.


That is why they were pushing backwards and not forwards!, with back-up safety features of no flaps or slat deployment set, multiple hi-viz jackets, and an auto-throttle that cuts thrust to zero at an altitude of six-feet AGL.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Verbal » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:28 pm

Norway plans to buy five new P-8 Poseidons

28 November, 2016 BY: Leigh Giangreco Washington DC

Norway has proposed replacing its aging fleet of Lockheed Martin P-3 Orions and Dassault DA-20 Jet Falcons with five new Boeing P-8 Poseidons, the country's minister of defense announced on 25 November.

The Norwegian government has set aside $1.5 billion to replace the six P-3s and three DA-20s. The contract will include aircraft, sensors, surveillance systems and anti-submarine weapons, Defence Minister Ine Eriksen Søreide says in a statement. Norway has scheduled the delivery between 2021 and 2022.

The P-8 announcement came a week after UK and Norway’s defense officials agreed on new Maritime Patrol Aircraft cooperation. During his visit to Norway’s Bodø Main Air Station, UK Defence Secretary Michael Fallon signed an agreement ensuring Norway’s support for UK exercises. British armed forces participate in winter exercises at 3 Commando Brigade in Harstad and Evenes and Joint Helicopter Command at Bardufoss.

The UK has ordered nine P-8s at a cost of £3 billion ($3.9 billion) over the next 10 years.

In a defense spending plan released in June, Norway proposed increasing its defense budget by NKr7.2 billion ($870 million) over the 2017-2020 period. In the same white paper, Norway also revealed plans to replace its fleet of P-3 Orions and phase out three of its DA-20 Falcons, which provide an electronic warfare and marine surveillance capability.


https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/norway-plans-to-buy-five-new-p-8-poseidons-431888/
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby elaw » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:54 pm

Oooh... a 737 that can carry torpedoes!

Southwest must be jealous... :lol:
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby flyboy2548m » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:07 pm

elaw wrote:Oooh... a 737 that can carry torpedoes!

Southwest must be jealous... :lol:


An interesting aside.

Heading up the coast, passing Charleston, ATC calls out traffic for us. "Traffic 2 O'Clock, westbound, a Navy P-8, 1,000' below." I guess they're not allowed to call them 737s (even though they are). Here's why I find that odd. They call KC-135s "Heavy 707s" (which they're not).
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby elaw » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:20 pm

Well if they're carrying weapons you probably should call them whatever they want to be called... :lol:
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby 3WE » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:39 pm

flyboy2548m wrote:Heading up the coast, passing Charleston, ATC calls out traffic for us. "Traffic 2 O'Clock, westbound, a Navy P-8, 1,000' below." I guess they're not allowed to call them 737s (even though they are). Here's why I find that odd. They call KC-135s "Heavy 707s" (which they're not).


There's a lot of odd, not-so-scientific practices (or at least it seems so as an outsider) within ATC phraseology...If Evan knew about it, I'm sure he'd have lots of suggestions for practices and regs.

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I'll also never forget hearing the tower telling someone to exit the runway 'via the Polish high-speed' NOT_politically correct!
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Ancient Mariner » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:09 am

With a real Viking at the helm of Nato we feel we should spend a few extra dollars to support the ailing American domestic industry. And of course your new Great Leader, Don Mussolini Trump.
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Re: Norwegian exceptionalism

Postby Verbal » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:09 pm

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/26/news/companies/norwegian-jumps-southwest-737-max/index.html

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Norwegian leapfrogs Southwest as first 737 Max operator
by Jon Ostrower @jonostrower January 26, 2017: 4:00 PM ET

Norwegian Air Shuttle said that it will be the first to take delivery of Boeing's new 737 Max airliner, jumping ahead of Southwest Airlines, the carrier confirmed Thursday.

Being the first to take possession of the new jetliner is a sign of the fast-growing carrier's increasing stature among the world's airlines.

"Norwegian will now be the first airline to take delivery of the Boeing (BA) 737 Max and we will be the first airline in the world to operate this brand-new aircraft type," an airline spokesman said in an email.

Norwegian said it will take delivery of the first of its Max jets in May and "then it will take a little time before it enters operation," the spokesman added. The airline has ordered 100 of the jets.

But being the first comes with added challenges, as the first operator typically works out the early kinks of a new design. When Norwegian first took its 787 Dreamliner in 2013, its early operations were repeatedly disrupted by reliability issues with the advanced long-range airliner.

Norwegian plans to use the single-aisle 737 Max, with its increased range, to fly between Europe and smaller cities in the U.S. The low-cost airline's long-haul operations from Europe are flown today with larger 787 Dreamliners.
norwegian boeing 737 max

The airline has been at the center of a fierce controversy with U.S. airlines and their labor unions over the Department of Transportation's approval of the carrier's ability to fly from Ireland to the U.S.. The unions claim Norwegian will undercut wages for U.S.-based pilots and cabin crews or hire less expensive non-U.S. crews while flying to America.

Southwest Airlines (LUV) was the first carrier to place a firm order for Boeing's updated single-aisle jet back in December 2011 and has long been expected to take the first jet from the plane maker. Southwest said Thursday that it won't take its first Max until July and it will start flying passengers on October 1.

Boeing's chief executive Dennis Muilenburg said Wednesday that the Max, which has been in testing since January 2016, will deliver during the second quarter, but did not say which airline would take the first jet.

Southwest has faced obstacles getting the Max into its fleet, first facing a now-settled labor dispute with its pilots over pay on the aircraft and the compatibility of the fourth generation aircraft into its all-Boeing 737 fleet.

Southwest is the largest operator of 737 jets in the world, and was the first airline the last time Boeing introduced a new generation of its workhorse airliner in 1997.

Boeing holds orders for more than 3,400 737 Max jets, which feature a pair of new engines and aerodynamic updates to cut fuel consumption by 14%.
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