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Re: 92 days later....

Postby Ancient Mariner » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:58 am



Being able to 'seal' Afg's notoriously leaky borders would be a good start. To do that requires manpower. Cut off the escape routes and means of resupply and you begin to starve the insurgency. That's a good start. Need a heap more troops to do that.
Seal off the Afhgan border? You need to hire Israeli wall builders for that.
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Re: 92 days later....

Postby David Hilditch » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:28 am

Being able to 'seal' Afg's notoriously leaky borders would be a good start. To do that requires manpower. Cut off the escape routes and means of resupply and you begin to starve the insurgency. That's a good start. Need a heap more troops to do that.
Yes, but the problem with this is that there isn’t a country to be defended. The central government is corrupt and does not control the countryside, so it’s hard to be sure what you would be defending and from whom. Afghanistan is really a loose alignment of tribal and ethnic groups. Moreover, there is an area often called ‘Pashtunistan’ which unites the Pashtun ethnic group across the Durand line. Pashtuns as a rule have more loyalty to each other than to any nation-states called Afghanistan and Pakistan. This is understood by many people on the ground, but I find the implications of this are still not widely realized or understood in Washington.

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Re: 92 days later....

Postby Marc 1 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:53 pm

Being able to 'seal' Afg's notoriously leaky borders would be a good start. To do that requires manpower. Cut off the escape routes and means of resupply and you begin to starve the insurgency. That's a good start. Need a heap more troops to do that.
Yes, but the problem with this is that there isn’t a country to be defended. The central government is corrupt and does not control the countryside, so it’s hard to be sure what you would be defending and from whom. Afghanistan is really a loose alignment of tribal and ethnic groups. Moreover, there is an area often called ‘Pashtunistan’ which unites the Pashtun ethnic group across the Durand line. Pashtuns as a rule have more loyalty to each other than to any nation-states called Afghanistan and Pakistan. This is understood by many people on the ground, but I find the implications of this are still not widely realized or understood in Washington.
Yes, I have heard the concept of nationhood for Afg is analagous to herding cats. The corruption of the officials is on a near biblical scale. I don't think the American selected well in our mate 'Kami' to head the puppet government. (Quite a few here referring to Hamid Karzi as 'KamiKarzi' - nobody expected him to live this long - thought anybody who took that job would have been blown up years ago). There needed to be some sort of government manned by UN appointees to run the country for 15 or so years whilst the locals were trained to take over. Mind you the way the UN does things that may have been a worse outcome for the country

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Re: 92 days later....

Postby Marc 1 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:54 pm



Being able to 'seal' Afg's notoriously leaky borders would be a good start. To do that requires manpower. Cut off the escape routes and means of resupply and you begin to starve the insurgency. That's a good start. Need a heap more troops to do that.
Seal off the Afhgan border? You need to hire Israeli wall builders for that.
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Re: 92 days later....

Postby Ancient Mariner » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:29 pm

I would not worry too much. From the article:
the wall, which was designed by the US military,
In other words, the wall is going to cost the US taxpayer fiftyeleven gazillion dollars, it will be delayed by 6 presidential periods and eventually the USoA will come begging to NATO allies for more money and people. Not in my lifetime.
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Re: 92 days later....

Postby Sickbag » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:01 pm

And the Palestinians will simply make their lifeline tunnels 20 meters deep.
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Re: 92 days later....

Postby Peter_K » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:35 pm

And the Palestinians will simply make their lifeline tunnels 20 meters deep.
You think they will need to go that far? The article doesn't mention the thickness of the wall but the blow torch or an angular grinder should do the job just fine.

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Re: 92 days later....

Postby Sickbag » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:54 pm

And the Palestinians will simply make their lifeline tunnels 20 meters deep.
You think they will need to go that far? The article doesn't mention the thickness of the wall but the blow torch or an angular grinder should do the job just fine.
The BBC reported yesterday that the wall, which was designed by the US military, will reach about 18 metres into the ground...
...is apparently resistant to melting and impossible to cut.
A metal that's impossible to cut! Imagine!
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Re: 92 days later....

Postby Peter_K » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:00 pm

A metal that's impossible to cut! Imagine!
Must be them extraterrestrial technologies straight from Area 51. This will cost American taxpayers for sure.

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Re: 92 days later....

Postby PurduePilot » Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:31 am

A metal that's impossible to cut! Imagine!
Must be them extraterrestrial technologies straight from Area 51. This will cost American taxpayers for sure.
I'm afraid you are wrong. It's obviously adamantium.

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Re: 92 days later....

Postby Marc 1 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:28 am

And the Palestinians will simply make their lifeline tunnels 20 meters deep.
You think they will need to go that far? The article doesn't mention the thickness of the wall but the blow torch or an angular grinder should do the job just fine.
The BBC reported yesterday that the wall, which was designed by the US military, will reach about 18 metres into the ground...
...is apparently resistant to melting and impossible to cut.
A metal that's impossible to cut! Imagine!

Makes you wonder how they fabricated it into pieces to make a wall...

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Re: 92 days later....

Postby rattler » Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:04 pm

anybody has an idea what this material will mean to commercial aviation (or space craft)?? "Un- meltable"?

Incredible, literally,

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