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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Sickbag » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:32 am

Yes.
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby OldSowBreath » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:52 pm

Yes. As the rest of the world throws off the yoke of communism, we seem hell-bent to embrace it.

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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Sickbag » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:01 pm

why don't you have a tea party?
That might stop it.
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Peter_K » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:13 pm

why don't you have a tea party?
That might stop it.
If it could, it would have been outlawed already. What they need is courageous White Men like Gray's Scouts who against all adds slowed down the spread of communist plague in Africa.
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Sickbag » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:27 pm

why don't you have a tea party?
That might stop it.
If it could, it would have been outlawed already. What they need is courageous White Men like Gray's Scouts who against all adds slowed down the spread of communist plague in Africa.
You mean the courageous White men defeated by Mugabe's ZANLAs and Nkomo's ZIPRA forces?

Isn't it about this time of night you start inflating your rubber Hitler doll Peter?
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Peter_K » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:39 pm


You mean the courageous White men defeated by Mugabe's ZANLAs and Nkomo's ZIPRA forces?

Isn't it about this time of night you start inflating your rubber Hitler doll Peter?
Mugabe was a puppet. Those courageous White Men on horses had to face the best the commies had to offer.
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Sickbag » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:11 pm

Tanks for the memories!
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Verbal » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:02 pm

Spending someone else's money is always good clean fun.
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Sickbag » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:18 pm

Spending someone else's money is always good clean fun.
The death panels won't take kindly to those type of comments, comrade.
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Sabre » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:43 pm

You know it's fucked up when you get a thumbs up from the UN

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62N5AU20100324

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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby David Hilditch » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:47 pm

Yes. As the rest of the world throws off the yoke of communism, we seem hell-bent to embrace it.
Not sure how serious the comment is, but to the extent that it is true at all, it is a mere extension to several centuries of measures from governments compelling us to do things. In any case, a system which helps more people to buy private insurance is hardly socialism, never mind communism.

The real problem with this legislation is not political, or ethical, or medical. It is financial : rather than creating savings for the economy, it is highly likely to cost a lot more than anticipated down the years. This is the problem with all entitlement programs.

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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Verbal » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:53 pm

The real problem with this legislation is not political, or ethical, or medical. It is financial : rather than creating savings for the economy, it is highly likely to cost a lot more than anticipated down the years. This is the problem with all entitlement programs.
Indeed. Entitlement programs are generally predicated on the assumption of a continuously growing body of contributors to the system. That is, for entitlements such as Social Security to work, the number of working people (and by extension, the country's population) needs to keep increasing year-to-year. Yes, it is essentially a giant pyramid scheme, one that would do Mr. Madoff proud.

Problems arise when your country's population growth levels out, as is the situation now in mature industrialized nations such as Japan and Germany.

Nothing new here. It is the age-old Democrat method: mortgage our future using other people's money.
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby Sickbag » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:44 pm

The real problem with this legislation is not political, or ethical, or medical. It is financial : rather than creating savings for the economy, it is highly likely to cost a lot more than anticipated down the years. This is the problem with all entitlement programs.
Indeed. Entitlement programs are generally predicated on the assumption of a continuously growing body of contributors to the system. That is, for entitlements such as Social Security to work, the number of working people (and by extension, the country's population) needs to keep increasing year-to-year. Yes, it is essentially a giant pyramid scheme, one that would do Mr. Madoff proud.

Problems arise when your country's population growth levels out, as is the situation now in mature industrialized nations such as Japan and Germany.

Nothing new here. It is the age-old Democrat method: mortgage our future using other people's money.

legalise the illegal workforce.
problem solved.
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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby PurduePilot » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:57 pm

The real problem with this legislation is not political, or ethical, or medical. It is financial : rather than creating savings for the economy, it is highly likely to cost a lot more than anticipated down the years. This is the problem with all entitlement programs.
Indeed. Entitlement programs are generally predicated on the assumption of a continuously growing body of contributors to the system. That is, for entitlements such as Social Security to work, the number of working people (and by extension, the country's population) needs to keep increasing year-to-year. Yes, it is essentially a giant pyramid scheme, one that would do Mr. Madoff proud.

Problems arise when your country's population growth levels out, as is the situation now in mature industrialized nations such as Japan and Germany.

Nothing new here. It is the age-old Democrat method: mortgage our future using other people's money.

legalise the illegal workforce.
problem solved.
That would provide an impulse increase, which might allow the government to make ends meet for a few years, but we'd soon run into the same problem.

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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby David Hilditch » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:36 pm

The real problem with this legislation is not political, or ethical, or medical. It is financial : rather than creating savings for the economy, it is highly likely to cost a lot more than anticipated down the years. This is the problem with all entitlement programs.
Indeed. Entitlement programs are generally predicated on the assumption of a continuously growing body of contributors to the system. That is, for entitlements such as Social Security to work, the number of working people (and by extension, the country's population) needs to keep increasing year-to-year. Yes, it is essentially a giant pyramid scheme, one that would do Mr. Madoff proud.

Problems arise when your country's population growth levels out, as is the situation now in mature industrialized nations such as Japan and Germany.
But the US population is far from leveling out. Despite the many forthcoming budget problems in coming decades, this is one chink of optimism for the US. We should not forget that the population of the US will rise substantially this century, perhaps to 400m by 2050. This does mean that the US is relatively better placed than almost any other Western country (and many developing countries too) in dealing with an ageing population.

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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby OldSowBreath » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:57 pm

Don't worry - The Obama administration is already making plans for dealing with the elderly.

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Re: US Healthcare Reform passed

Postby 3WE » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:43 am

Health care is a tough issue.

Poor folks have it fine and people with good jobs have it fine. But, some folks who are trying to work can be royally screwed if someone gets sick. Doctors and insurance companies wage war with your health not neccesarily the #1 objective. Then we have the humanitarian side. If you are poor and you get cancer, is it not the religious, moral, whatever thing to do to provide chemotherapy and tumor-removal surgery?

It's all such a big mess, that I basically say, "to hell with it, bring on socialized medicne and lets be just like Canada." Yes things will get worse- but it's pretty screwed up now.

I would also say that health care reform has been a pretty big political issue helping Democrats and hurting Republicans. Oh, sure, there's concerns that Obamma care is too Communist and hell yes, I wish it wasn't him ramrodding the plan.

But too many Bushes acted like the country was totally hunky-dory/Polly Anna while some segments weren't neccesarily rosy. Conversely, Bill and Barak got a lot of traction by feeling our pain and questioning well-paid doctors and insurance executives.
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