Shade-O-Matic

Aviators sit in the shade of their weatherbeaten, fabric-covered biplanes, exchange hangar talk and tell stories of their barnstorming days before they take to the air again and fly toward the setting sun ....

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Shade-O-Matic

Postby IntheShade » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:56 pm

FL330, the basement of outer space.....

This is where I operate.

These are the true stories of the International Super Genius Pilot of the Millennium.
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby OldSowBreath » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:28 pm

"Spin us some yarns, Cap'n!", said the cabinboy, "and how they differ from FL320."

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby 3WE » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:16 pm

In recent Months I rode several fairly full 757's.

It was effortless as many of the flights were four-one-oh'd.

What can one say, but :D Boeing :D
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby ZeroAltitude » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:07 pm

Even if I run the risk of making myself a fool: Pray tell what 410-ing a flight is.
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby 3WE » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:00 pm

Even if I run the risk of making myself a fool: Pray tell what 410-ing a flight is.
Climbing to flight level 410 (41,000 feet)

It's a fairly high altitude and not all planes (perhaps including the 757 at times?) can get there.

Arguably, it's a fairly good accomplishment to get there.

It is especially noteworthy in regards to the empty Pinnacle CRJ crash. FL410 is the "service ceiling" of a CRJ, and there was a contest to see how fast a plane could arrive at FL410, and the quotes on the CVR of "let's four one oh it, dude".

My understanding is that climbing to FL410 is 1) a pretty good performance challenge for a CRJ in the first place and 2) the climb was mishandled with them arriving at a low airspeed, behind the power curve, and unable to accelerate.

The 757 (as a contrast) seemed to get to FL410 easily with a full passenger load and ~4 hours worth of fuel.

Thus, another endorsement for :DBeing :D boeing great.
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby GlennAB1 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:38 pm

FL330, the basement of outer space.....

This is where I operate.

These are the true stories of the International Super Genius Pilot of the Millennium.
To boldly go where billions have gone before..... bring on the stories Shady!

P.S. Do you have permission to use "Shade-O-Matic" or will you claim to have had blinders on? lol
you still have to find a crew willing to fly this "barely airworthy" heap
no such thing as "barely airworthy" it's either Airworthy or Not
100% incorrect Ever hear of Ferry Permit? issued for Non airworthy aircraft
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby VectorForFood » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:37 pm

You altitude amuses me InTheShade.

I've worked airplanes flying almost twice as high as that.

Even your every-day puppy mill biz jet pilot flies around at FL450+

FL330 is old school, an altitude reserved for old dilapidated aircraft that just can't keep up with their newer younger brothers.

Hell even cracker-box A330's can get up to FL390 and sometimes 410 going transatlantic just after departure.

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby Dummy Pilot » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:55 pm

I'm guessing your chair is...what, maybe 2 feet off the ground?

Image ;)

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby Half Bottle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:02 pm

I'm guessing your chair is...what, maybe 2 feet off the ground?
I'll confidently guess that his chair is cranked up as high as he can get it. It's important to look important.
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby Giles » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:22 am

I'm guessing your chair is...what, maybe 2 feet off the ground?
I'll confidently guess that his chair is cranked up as high as he can get it. It's important to look important.
when he is at his computer racking up his avsim stats.

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby flyboy2548m » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:06 pm

You altitude amuses me InTheShade.
Not nearly as much as yours depresses everyone else, Wonnzie. Get back to your scope and/or Mazda.
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby VectorForFood » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:37 pm

Hey, as much as I think flying the airlines would be cool,

Bottom line is, I work in aviation, I make good money, I'm home every night for regular 27 year old wifey time, and I go flying on my schedule.

If I ended up going the airline route, I'm sure I would have loved it, but I wouldn't trade this gig

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby Ed » Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:42 pm

I've worked airplanes flying almost twice as high as that.
OK, now you have my attention. What aircraft have you worked that are flying 63.5k?

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby flyboy2548m » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:56 pm

I've worked airplanes flying almost twice as high as that.
OK, now you have my attention. What aircraft have you worked that are flying 63.5k?
Probably the DeHavilland Beaver, Ed. Remember, we're talking 63,500' Canadian, which is about 4,700' US. A Beaver can easily manage that.
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby VectorForFood » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:18 am

I've worked airplanes flying almost twice as high as that.
OK, now you have my attention. What aircraft have you worked that are flying 63.5k?
Probably the DeHavilland Beaver, Ed. Remember, we're talking 63,500' Canadian, which is about 4,700' US. A Beaver can easily manage that.
I actually enjoy this joke.

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby VectorForFood » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:19 am

I've worked airplanes flying almost twice as high as that.
OK, now you have my attention. What aircraft have you worked that are flying 63.5k?
I said almost twice as high... here's a hint:
Operating Altitude:
Maximum Flight Duration:
Range:
Maximum Gross Weight:
Maximum Payload Weight:
Wing Surface Area:
Engine Thrust:
True Air Speed at 60,000+ feet:
Max. Indicated Air Speed at 0 to 35,000 feet:
Minimum Runway Dimensions:
Maximum Crosswind Component:
Air to Ground Communications:
Payload Power Options: Sea level to well above 60,000 feet
Approximately 6.5 hours
Approximately 2,500 miles
63,000 pounds
6,000 pounds.
2,000 square feet
15,500 pounds per TF-33 engine
~410 knots (Max Mach .8)
190 knots
7000 feet x 150 feet (sea level)
15 knots
UHF, VHF, HF, and SAT phone
110V 400Hz 3-Phase, 110V 60Hz 1- Phase and 28VDC
All public information of course. Keep in mind FL600 is the edge of controlled airspace.

EDIT: HEre's a real good hint...

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby PurduePilot » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:10 am

EDIT: HEre's a real good hint...

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A rocket only has a max mach of .8?

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby IntheShade » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:26 am


EDIT: HEre's a real good hint...

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Sounds exciting.

So I guess you told him to switch frequency?

I'll tell you exciting.

Being on an unamed base in an undisclosed country watching the mission launch for something of this type take place.

You'll never see it sitting in a chair bent over a scope.
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby Sabre » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:29 am


EDIT: HEre's a real good hint...
Is the "real good hint" the data, the photo, or the aircraft type noted in the URL of the photo?

:mrgreen:

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby Ed » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:57 am

I said almost twice as high...
Sorry, by the initial postings, discussions of CRJs, etc, I was under the assumption we were talking commercial aircraft, not research aircraft.

Mea Culpa

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby IntheShade » Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:04 am

I said almost twice as high...
Sorry, by the initial postings, discussions of CRJs, etc, I was under the assumption we were talking commercial aircraft, not research aircraft.

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby Robert Hilton » Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:04 am

A slightly tweaked Canberra

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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby VectorForFood » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:56 pm

I said almost twice as high...
Sorry, by the initial postings, discussions of CRJs, etc, I was under the assumption we were talking commercial aircraft, not research aircraft.

Mea Culpa
Either way it's just a green dot with a data tag.
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby Sickbag » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:15 pm

Welcome to 1975 everyone, the Vietnam war just ended....

Er , in that case aren't you just a white dot with a wiggly tail?
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Re: Shade-O-Matic

Postby PurduePilot » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:31 pm

Welcome to 1975 everyone, the Vietnam war just ended....

Er , in that case aren't you just a white dot with a wiggly tail?
Well-played, sir!


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