The A380 Scarebus Saga Continues - Near Total Disaster

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The A380 Scarebus Saga Continues - Near Total Disaster

Postby el » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:08 am

Paris - An Airbus A380 superjumbo had to turn around mid-flight and land back in Paris due to an electrical fault, a spokesperson for its operator Singapore Airlines said on Wednesday.

"We had an electrical current fault in the kitchen areas" and the captain turned the plane round two hours into the flight to return to Charles de Gaulles airport so it could be fixed, the spokesperson said in Paris.

It was a "minor fault which does not at all compromise the safety of passengers or the crew", he said. "But if it wasn't repaired they could not have served hot food and drinks."

It was at least the fourth time an A380 flight had been disrupted by a technical fault. A glitch grounded an A380 operated by Air France in New York on Monday.

In November, an Air France A380 was forced to turn around and land in New York after a fault with its navigation system, days after the airline started flying the superjumbo. Air France cited "a minor computer problem" in that incident.

An A380 flown by Singapore Airlines also had to return to Paris on September 27 after one of its four engines failed during a flight to Singapore.
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Postby Not_Karl » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:40 am

"But if it wasn't repaired they could not have served hot food and drinks."
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That can be really dangerous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ilGGP9BDZs
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Postby IntheShade » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:12 pm

It's all fun until they discover the electrical arcing from the crap dual metal wiring in the A-380.

Then instead of dinner they'll be cooking passengers.
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Postby Ancient Mariner » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:23 pm

It's all fun until they discover the electrical arcing from the crap dual metal wiring in the A-380.

Then instead of dinner they'll be cooking passengers.
At least the French know how to cook.
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Postby Peter_K » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:08 pm

But if it wasn't repaired they could not have served hot food and drinks.
Proper judgment and decision by the Captain. Frenchmen may become unpredictable without hot food and drinks.

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Postby capslock » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:56 pm

It's all fun until they discover the electrical arcing from the crap dual metal wiring in the A-380.

Then instead of dinner they'll be cooking passengers.
What is dual metal wiring???

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Postby ZeroAltitude » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:10 pm

It's all fun until they discover the electrical arcing from the crap dual metal wiring in the A-380.

Then instead of dinner they'll be cooking passengers.
What is dual metal wiring???
Yes Charles, pls elaborate. Two kinds of metal involved (like copper / aluminum - the problem would be more like chemical elements chaning the voltage rather that arcing)? Or do you mean circuits without grounding that "float" electrically (dual conductors/wires without protective ground - arcing could very well be a problem when something gets statically charged)?
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Postby rattler » Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:46 pm

Interested also,

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Postby J » Tue May 10, 2016 3:05 pm

Aviation experts baffled after British Airways A380 lands at Heathrow with a SQUARE tyre

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The captain of the Airbus A380-800 received a loss of tyre pressure warning on take-off.

Following the indication, the crew made the decision to continue the flight and reportedly called ahead to London to request a tow tug as a precaution in case the aircraft could not taxi to the gate under its own power.

After the 13-hour flight the double-deck, wide-body Airbus landed safely on runway 09L and made its way to the gate without assistance.

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Even aviation safety expert Kumar Mysore, from the Royal Aeronautical Society, said that the event was a 'bit of a mystery'.

He told Mailonline Travel that the reason for the square shape was very probably a quirk of the way the weight is distributed onto the wheels in an A380.

He said: 'It is a bit mysterious, an interesting phenomenon.

'The deflated tyre would have been round when the aircraft touched down, it would not have rotated on four square edges as the picture would have us believe. The round wheel would have rotated on the flat ground, with the deflated tyre wobbling around the wheel.

'The tyre has taken this shape after the aircraft came to a halt

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Postby Ancient Mariner » Tue May 10, 2016 8:35 pm

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Postby PurduePilot » Tue May 10, 2016 10:54 pm

Daily Mail? Why?

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Re: The A380 Scarebus Saga Continues - Near Total Disaster

Postby J » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:49 pm

A380 wake suspected in Challenger loss-of-control event
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| 08 March, 2017
| SOURCE: Flightglobal Pro
| BY: David Kaminski-Morrow
| London


Investigators are considering the possibility that Airbus A380 wake turbulence might have contributed to a loss-of-control event that badly damaged a business jet in January.

The aircraft rolled three times during the event and lost altitude but the pilots managed to regain a degree of control and land the aircraft at Muscat.

FlightGlobal first learned on 7 February, from sources familiar with the situation, that the 17-year old Bombardier Challenger 604 (D-AMSC) had been found to have sustained serious damage after the landing on 7 January.

The aircraft is registered to German business operator MHS Aviation, which did not respond to subsequent inquiries about the circumstances.

But sources informed FlightGlobal in February that the aircraft was upset while in cruise and that the stress damage to the airframe was so bad that the aircraft would probably be written off.

Preliminary information obtained at the time, yet to be confirmed, suggested the aircraft had lost 10,000ft before control was restored. FlightGlobal understands that the restoration of control was the result of manual intervention, rather than automatic system input.

A source close to the probe has told FlightGlobal that the investigation is looking into A380 flightpaths at the time, and that a wake encounter is a line of inquiry. No specific A380 operator has been linked to the event.

The event had been described by Oman’s Public Authority for Civil Aviation as an emergency landing following left-hand engine failure, but PACA did not subsequently respond to inquiries in February for additional data on the possible wake turbulence encounter.

German investigation authority BFU is heading the inquiry but is yet to issue any preliminary findings.

BFU is not confirming many details of the probe beyond stating that it has sent two examiners to Muscat to study the aircraft, and that it is waiting for the flight-data and cockpit-voice recorders to be transferred for analysis.

But a spokesman for the authority states that it is treating the event, which occurred at 35,000ft, as an “accident” involving loss-of-control and says the Challenger is “fully damaged”, and will not fly again.

It has not identified the operator of the business aircraft, in line with German regulations, nor disclosed the number of occupants or the extent and nature of any injuries.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ev-434938/

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Postby 3WE » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:41 pm

Amazing story. Many genuine questions and thoughts- were separation guidelines grossly violated? Seems very close to the edge to break an airplane like that yet land and live to tell the story.

And from the silly side, we should call for the banning of this terrible A380 aircraft!
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Postby J » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:19 pm

Emirates A380 Aborts Ground Effect Test at 400 Feet Whilst Approaching Domodedovo -
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(That was a Fake News Headline I Added)

(Reuters) - The United Arab Emirates’ (UAE) civil aviation regulator is investigating why an Emirates [EMIRA.UL] Airbus (AIR.PA) A380 superjumbo flew dangerously low when approaching Moscow’s Domodedovo Airport last week.

The General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) said its air accident investigation unit is treating the Sept. 10 episode as a “serious incident”, an internationally recognized category which means an accident “nearly occurred”.

The GCAA said Emirates flight EK131 “descended below the glideslope on approach”, meaning that the aircraft flew below the recommended height as it came into land.

The Aviation Herald reported that the aircraft descended to 400 feet at 8 nautical miles (14.8 kilometers) from the runway, before pulling out of the approach and later landing safely, but only after a second unsuccessful attempt.

The typical height for a passenger jet at that distance would be more than 2,000 feet, an aviation expert said.

The pilots told air traffic control “everything is fine when contacted by operators after the incident, and later said everything is great following the second unsuccessful landing attempt, a Russian industry source with direct knowledge of the matter said.

No injuries to the 446 passengers and crew onboard or damage to the aircraft was reported, the GCAA said.

A spokeswoman for Emirates, which says it operates two daily flights to Moscow, confirmed the flight was under investigation, but declined to comment further.

Emirates has not raised any concerns about Russian air traffic control or airport equipment relating to the incident, Russia’s Rosaviatsia federal air transport agency said.

Flight information has been handed to the GCAA and the airline, the Russian agency said, adding that it was not conducting its own investigation.

The incident comes amid a probe into the Emirates crash landing at Dubai International Airport in 2016 which is looking at the actions of the pilots, the GCAA said on Aug. 6.

All 300 passengers and crew evacuated, but a firefighter died tackling a fire after the plane skidded along the runway.

In June, Emirates was fined and barred by China’s civil aviation authority from adding new destinations and aircraft in China for six months, following two incidents of “unsafe operations”.

Russian authorities are investigating a crash involving UAE airline flydubai last year at an airport in the city of Rostov-on-Don, which killed all 62 on board. A preliminary report suggested pilot error may have been the cause.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russi ... SKCN1BW1WA

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Postby Not_Karl » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:16 am

Air France A380 tries to kill all its passengers.
One engine (Engine Alliance, NOT Rolls Royce) threw out some bits and pieces. Fortunately, crew did Not_relentlessly pull-up.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4af15205&opt=0
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Postby 3WE » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:58 pm

Air France A380 tries to kill all its passengers.
One engine (Engine Alliance, NOT Rolls Royce) threw out some bits and pieces and messed up an inconsequential part called a wing spar. Fortunately, the automation was not affected and the crew did Not_relentlessly pull-up.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4af15205&opt=0
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Postby Not_Karl » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:18 pm

...and messed up an inconsequential part called a wing spar...
Of course. There's a back-up wing spar in the other wing. There's a full back-up wing, in fact.
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Postby monchavo » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:46 pm

Useless speculation most everywhere. Anyone care to comment on the issue?

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Postby elaw » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:17 am

I'm not really an expert but it appears to me that the engine broke. :mrgreen:
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Postby Gabriel » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:27 am

I'm not really an expert but it appears to me that the engine broke. :mrgreen:
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Postby ocelot » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:09 am

I feel like we've seen this before, one entire stage of an engine getting up and going walkies. But i can't remember when or where.

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Postby Not_Karl » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:36 pm

I feel like we've seen this before, one entire stage of an engine getting up and going walkies. But i can't remember when or where.
This total fan blade and engine inlet disaster?
Or this one?
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Postby Ancient Mariner » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:30 pm

They should use manly diesel engines instead of those girlie hair blowers.
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Postby 3WE » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:50 pm

They should use manly diesel engines instead of those girlie hair blowers.
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Indeed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnOSRCuZBkY
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