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Jetblue short filed landing

Postby Dummy Pilot » Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:40 pm

NTSB: Parking brake error behind JetBlue tyre fire, evacuation
By John Croft

The US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) says pilots of a JetBlue Airbus A320 that experienced landing difficulties at the Sacramento International airport on 26 August had mistakenly engaged the aircraft's parking brake during the approach.

Upon touchdown after an otherwise normal arrival, the first officer, who was flying, experienced a "rapid deceleration" which he described to the captain as feeling like a main landing gear tire blow out. Flight 262, inbound from Long Beach, was carrying 86 passengers and five crew members.

The captain took control after the initial touchdown, maintaining directional control and stopping the aircraft about 610m (2,000ft) from the touchdown point{SWEET!}

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A post-incident analysis of N590JB's flight data recorder revealed that the parking brake had been set during the approach phase at approximately 5,100ft altitude and remained engaged during the landing.

Article Here: FlightGlobal

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Re: Jetblue short filed landing

Postby OldSowBreath » Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:54 pm

If we had tailhooks on commercial aircraft we could shorten the runways.

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Re: Jetblue short filed landing

Postby Gabriel » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:00 pm

I can do better than that and in wet grass (and in the Tomahawk).

On a different note, I would have thought that such a "smart" plane like an A320 would refuse to engage the parking brake while flying even if the pilot attempted to.

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Re: Jetblue short filed landing

Postby GlennAB1 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:05 am

Well, the checklist did say........ "Parking Brake - Set"
you still have to find a crew willing to fly this "barely airworthy" heap
no such thing as "barely airworthy" it's either Airworthy or Not
100% incorrect Ever hear of Ferry Permit? issued for Non airworthy aircraft
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Re: Jetblue short filed landing

Postby 3WE » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:43 am

I would have thought that such a "smart" plane like an A320 would refuse to engage the parking brake while flying even if the pilot attempted to.
You are assuming that the pilot attempted to engage the parking brake. (I know that's what the article said, but journalists make assumptions too).

The article cites the FDR, which says that the parking brake was set, but it did not say how it was set.

We also need the CVR transcript (when the final report comes out), "What's it doing now?"

Fortunately the vertical stabilizer did not fail during the hard braking.
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Re: Jetblue short filed landing

Postby flyboy2548m » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:10 am

PB shutoff valve failed in the open position? But one would think there would be some sort of an ECAM message with that.
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Re: Jetblue short filed landing

Postby Peminu » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:24 am

And what is the importance on "filing" a landing short, if they didn't died?
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Re: Jetblue short filed landing

Postby Pipe » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:57 pm

I can do better than that and in wet grass (and in the Tomahawk).

On a different note, I would have thought that such a "smart" plane like an A320 would refuse to engage the parking brake while flying even if the pilot attempted to.
Well, the Nintendo-Wonderflyer allows even one engine in reverse while the other engine accelerates, now doesn´it. (Congonhas 2007)

But only for sharp turns, I guess ...

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Re: Jetblue short filed landing

Postby VectorForFood » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:05 am

Having seen a 737 land with the PB on before, with similar landing distance, there wasn't much left of the tires... or the wheels for that matter


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