LOT 767 lands with gear up

[Hazmat]

Belly landing in Warsaw, Polish link with video.
http://www.megawypas.pl/readarticle.php?article_id=69

[Procede]

Youtube video of landing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz2_dWZb ... r_embedded

Any idea on the cause? Did they want to save money on tires?

[schmusimausi73]

Those poor passengers (and crew), they must have been scared shitless.

[Sickbag]

Yes.

[Peter_K]

Youtube video of landing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz2_dWZb ... r_embedded

Any idea on the cause? Did they want to save money on tires?

Problems with hydraulics were apparently reported shortly after departing Newark but I blame Russian ATC.

[schmusimausi73]

FAA To Ban Plane Crashes

WASHINGTON—In what officials are calling "a much-needed policy shift," the Federal Aviation Administration announced this weekend that it would ban all plane crashes. "After a careful review of flight data from the past 25 years, we've determined that customers, pilots, and the airlines themselves would benefit significantly from a strictly enforced no-plane-crash policy," said FAA administrator Randy Babbitt, adding that pilots involved in fiery plane wrecks could face a steep fine or even suspension. "The practice of crashing an airliner into an ocean or mountain will no longer be tolerated. American consumers deserve better." According to industry sources, most commercial airlines are planning to fit in as many crashes as possible between now and Jan. 1, when the ban officially goes into effect.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/faa-to ... hes,26485/

[Verbal]

SP-LPC was delivered in May 1997. It is showing 7000+ flights and 60k hours. The Boeing Airplane-on-the-Ground team will be all over this one.

[Peter_K]

Aircraft came to stop at the intersection of two runways. Warsaw will be closed at least until 8AM tomorrow.

[GlennAB1]

The Boeing Airplane-on-the-Ground team will be all over this one.

Can you spell AOG?

[Gabriel]

Aircraft came to stop at the intersection of two runways. Warsaw will be closed at least until 8AM tomorrow.

Shitty pilot. He could have braked a bit stronger or let it roll a bit further. I know with no gears it's a bit more difficult that your usual landing, but emergencies is what pilots train for or what?

[reubee]

There was bound to be one prepared to sacrifice himself by keeping his personal camera recording. Note at 2:20 the old lady getting bowled over in the middle of the tarmac.

http://youtu.be/1TM-1tOVAf0

[PurduePilot]

I feel like they need to get somebody out there with an ATV and a cattle prod to round up the loose sheep that ran too far away.

[Peter_K]

I feel like they need to get somebody out there with an ATV and a cattle prod to round up the loose sheep that ran too far away.

Why? There is a fence around it. Sooner or later they will have to follow it to look for an opening and being barefoot in November it may be sooner than later.

[Dummy Pilot]

Accident: LOT B763 at Warsaw on Nov 1st 2011, forced gear up landing

By Simon Hradecky, created Thursday, Dec 1st 2011 11:44Z, last updated Thursday, Dec 1st 2011 11:54Z

The Polish Panstwowa Komisja Badania Wypadkow Lotniczych (Polish State Commission for Aircraft Accident Investigation, PKBWL) released their preliminary report reporting that the aircraft suffered a hydraulic leak shortly after takeoff from Newark's runway 04L, when the gear and flaps were retracted. The center hydraulic system's (System "C") pressure dropped as a result. Just after the flaps had fully retracted the crew received a low pressure message on the Engine Indication and Crew Alerting System (EICAS), the hydraulic quantity indication reduced from 105.1% to 10.6% in 2 minutes, the aircraft was climbing through 3850 feet MSL at that point. The crew actioned the relevant checklists and consulted with the airline's operations center resulting in the decision to continue the flight.

While on approach to Warsaw the crew performed the alternate gear extension procedure however the gear did not extend. While in a holding military aircraft were dispatched to visually check the aircraft and reported the gear was still in the up position. The crew attempted another gravity extension which still did not extend the gear.

About 72 minutes after aborting the first approach to Warsaw, in view of the failed attempts to lower the gear and the fuel reserves depleting the crew decided to commence a belly landing. After the aircraft came to a stop an evacuation commenced through all doors except for the right hand overwing exits, the evacuation was completed in about 90 seconds.

About 15-20 minutes after the end of the evacuation the first members of PKBWL arrived at the scene and found the "C829 BAT BUS DISTR" circuit breaker on the P6 panel was in the popped position, the "C4248 LANDING GEAR - ALTN EXT MOTOR" circuit breaker was in the closed position. The recordings of cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were secured.

Circuit breaker C829 protects a number of systems including the alternate landing gear extension system. It's position was not recorded or indicated by any aircraft system.

After the aircraft was lifted off the runway, the circuit breaker C829 was closed, then the alternate landing gear extension was activated and successfully extended the landing gear, so that the aircraft could be towed to the airline's maintenance hangar.

On Nov 2nd the location of the hydraulic leak was identified in a damaged hose belonging to the center hydraulic system. The hose was disassembled and sent to the NTSB for further analysis.

The captain held an ATPL and accumulated 15,980 hours total flying time (thereof 14,007 hours in command) and 13,307 hours on type. The first officer (ATPL) accumulated 9,431 hours total flying time, thereof 1,981 hours on type.

AvHerald Link

I still question the decision to fly across the pond without one of the hydraulic systems, but that's just me....it probably wouldn't have changed the outcome. The link has a picture of the CB location, and admittedly, it's in a tough location to spot right at loor level. Still, the standard rule in aviation applies...if it's not working, look for the CB and either pop it in or cycle it.

[J]

Here is a photograph of belly damage. Many of the comments on the link DP provided question when the breaker tripped.

http://m.wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosc ... 93677.html

[monchavo]

Repairable?

[Sir Gallivant]

Duct tape. OK, maybe a layer of tinfoil first, but duct tape it on, and you are good to go.

[Gabriel]

Repairable?

It looks repairable, yes.

[GlennAB1]

We'd have that repaired in a couple weeks.

[Peter_K]

Should be as good, as new some time in January, maybe February.

[PurduePilot]

Tej , a może od razu LUFTWAFFE ??????????????????????????

[fors43]

NIce...good to see the old gang is still around

[Peter_K]

Hej, a może od razu LUFTWAFFE ??????????????????????????

Hey, maybe Luftwaffe right away????

Just double checking if this is the message you were trying to convey because google translate can sometime play dirty tricks on the unprepared ones.

[PurduePilot]

Hej, a może od razu LUFTWAFFE ??????????????????????????

Hey, maybe Luftwaffe right away????

Just double checking if this is the message you were trying to convey because google translate can sometime play dirty tricks on the unprepared ones.

It was a comment in the link that J posted. I found it humorous even though I have no idea what it means.

[Peter_K]

It was a comment in the link that J posted. I found it humorous even though I have no idea what it means.

Aaa, OK, thanks for the clarification. Since I saw the pictures before, I didn't click on Js' link.