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St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:03 pm
by Dummy Pilot
Here's a
VIDEO of a bunch of morons trying to hold onto the fence at SXM as a JetBlue plane departs. As it turns out, the guy tripping over the wall fracctured his leg and the girl who did the faceplant suffered a head injury. Now don't get me wrong, the tourists are idiots and deserve what's coming to them...there are all sorts of signs warning them not to do what they did. However, numerous pilots have noted that the Jetblue plane taxies onto and holds on the overrun/jetblast area (the part with yellow chevrons which can be better seen on an overhead shot of the airport). They're not supposed to be on this part of the pavement at all, much less taking off on it. At the :06 second mark, you can see the F/O with his window open, waving to the crowd....the crew then stands onthe brakes for what seems an excessive time. Others have noted that the crew seems to be 'waving' goodbye to the crowd by pumping on the elevators at the :18 sec mark, something you wouldn't normally do on takeoff. To me, it seems like a little bit of showboating.....again, the tourists bear their own responsibility, but I think this crew may have played a role as well. In any event, it's a reminder that nothing you do in life today can escape being caught on Video for all to see.
.......and if nothing else, the girl in the pink bikini who comes running in at the end has a smokin' hot body!
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:42 pm
by Sickbag
These people travel to a beautiful Island, with a lovely climate and warm seas, and then spend their days standing at an airport fence ?!
Beat them with sticks then feed them through a mincer...
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:46 pm
by Gabriel
Let's think nice:
They were in the limit of the weight for that runway / weather. While being illegal, they decided to use the overrun for an extra margin. For that very reason, they waited for the engines to spool-up to full TOGA before releasing the brakes. And the FO opened his window to yell "move away, this is dangerous!" while making signs with his hand to make them go.
If it is what it seems to be, I mean that waved them with their hands and tail (elevator) and that they taxied that back (beyond the runway limits) and held the brakes for so long just to please the tourists with the show they wanted, this crew (both of them) should not only have their licences terminated for ever, but also a criminal prosecution for injuries should be in place (they KNEW that what they did was illegal and dangerous and still did it).
Nothing of that relieves the tourists from their responsibility and stupidity, of course.
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:08 pm
by Dummy Pilot
Here's a picture of the overrun area that they taxied into:
Also, these signs are eveywhere:
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:20 pm
by Verbal
Did they died?
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:41 am
by 3WE
These people ... spend their days standing at an airport fence ?!...
http://forums.jetphotos.net/
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:31 am
by 3WE
Double post
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:33 am
by 3WE
BREAKING NEWS 4/11/2012 0:30 Zulu
This leads the Yahoo home page, with a headline of safety concerns.
http://gma.yahoo.com/video/news-2679792 ... 07826.html
Amazing, because I didn't think this forum was getting that much traffic these days.
Thanks again to Dummy Pilot who is ALWAYS in control and on top.
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:11 am
by PurduePilot
These people travel to a beautiful Island, with a lovely climate and warm seas, and then spend their days standing at an airport fence ?!
Beat them with sticks then feed them through a mincer...
It's the American way.
I was there for a week and only spent maybe 4-5 hours at the beach bar, but it was worth it.
Continental pilots are more courteous than JetBlue pilots, apparently.
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:05 am
by Gabriel
"This video is not available in your location"
Could you narrate it for me?
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:28 am
by GlennAB1
Ouch! That had to hurt!!!
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:05 pm
by 3WE
"This video is not available in your location"
Could you narrate it for me?
Bullet point summary
-Clips of the video
-Clips of warning signs
-Clips of many other videos
-It's popular to hang onto the fence and get blasted
-There are known hazards
-Yet, the ability to be very close to a runway- and moreso landing planes is a special attribute of that beach, and many people are there for the views
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:14 pm
by OldSowBreath
That girl in the bikini was smoking hot! I need to hang out at airport fences more often.
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:44 pm
by Gabriel
Bullet point summary
-Clips of the video
-Clips of warning signs
-Clips of many other videos
-It's popular to hang onto the fence and get blasted
-There are known hazards
-Yet, the ability to be very close to a runway- and moreso landing planes is a special attribute of that beach, and many people are there for the views
Thanks. I was most intrigued for your comment:
"Amazing, because I didn't think this forum was getting that much traffic these days."
Something in there realting to this forum?
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:21 pm
by 3WE
Thanks. I was most intrigued for your comment:
"Amazing, because I didn't think this forum was getting that much traffic these days."
Something in there realting to this forum?
Clearly, the national news picked up on the story from surfing ad.info
Dummy made the post at 12:03 PM, and and then shortly before 6:30 PM, yahoo ran with the story!
Where else would they have heard?
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:32 pm
by Giles
Thanks. I was most intrigued for your comment:
"Amazing, because I didn't think this forum was getting that much traffic these days."
Something in there realting to this forum?
Clearly, the national news picked up on the story from surfing ad.info
Dummy made the post at 12:03 PM, and and then shortly before 6:30 PM, yahoo ran with the story!
Where else would they have heard?
facebook, youtube (liveleak), digg, email, other websites.
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:04 pm
by 3WE
Check
http://www.internet.com
See if they have a description of sarcasm.
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:14 pm
by Not_Karl
No, they don't:
Uploaded with
ImageShack.us
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:19 pm
by 3WE
Spelling...
pwned.
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:06 pm
by Rabbi O'Genius
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:32 pm
by J
And it was only a 737. Perhaps a larger plane would have safely blown her farther back and onto the soft sand.
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:12 pm
by monchavo
I am in many minds about this event. Would I stand directly under the jet blast? No. Is it dangerous? Manifestly, yes. Why haven't more died?
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:33 pm
by 3WE
...Here's a [deleted video] of a bunch of morons trying to hold onto the fence at SXM as a JetBlue plane departs...
Gotta confess, I kinda want to do it.
And noted, someone who probably felt similarly did died...
Plus, I figure it's generally safer BEHIND the engines than in front.
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:12 pm
by Not_Karl
I am in many minds about this event. Would I stand directly under the jet blast? No. Is it dangerous? Manifestly, yes. Why haven't more died?
...Here's a [deleted video] of a bunch of morons trying to hold onto the fence at SXM as a JetBlue plane departs...
Gotta confess, I kinda want to do it.
And noted, someone who probably felt similarly did died...
Plus, I figure it's generally safer BEHIND the engines than in front.
I have
conflicting feelings on that matter
(fence clinging, not the death of someone Brianie doesn't care about):
Do I consider it a
dumb, dangerous thing to do?
Yes.
Would I like a
loved one doing it?
No, not in the slightest.
Would
I personally do it?
Yes, I would absolutely
love to.
3BS has drawn an interesting comparison to parachuting (and there are a lot of other "extreme sports" way more dangerous).
Re: St Maarten (SXM) tomfoolery
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:47 am
by 3WE
...3BS has drawn an interesting comparison to parachuting...
And now
3BS (who enjoys
comparing and
contrasting) will draw
another interesting
comparison that
Dummy Pilot and
Brian are
both pretty hard on
fence clingers.