787 inflight structural breakup in 3....2....1....

[Sickbag]

not that you'll find me on a "Dreamliner" (I bet they regret that name big time) anytime soon.
Per

Or anyone else for that matter...

[monchavo]

everything's gone very quiet.....

[monchavo]

everything's gone very quiet.....

David, if you really are back, I'd love one of your succinct analysis of this rather sorry affair.

[3WE]

everything's gone very quiet.....

That's what happens when you park an airplane and turn off the engines.

[Rabbi O'Genius]

everything's gone very quiet.....

Boeing seeks Dreamliner test flights

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21332256

[Ancient Mariner]

everything's gone very quiet.....

Boeing seeks Dreamliner test flights

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21332256

Lithium batteries go boom without being re- or de-charged. I've had one returend and checked by the manufacturer and.......................nothing found. A test flight with the same tyype of batteries and charging system proves nothing. Every flight thereafter will be a test flight, sans moi.
Per

[Rabbi O'Genius]

Don't hold your breath....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21363491

[Pipe]

I flew BUE-SCL two days before she got grounded. Mixed feelings, of course, but a very nice ride it was.
That story´s gonna cost Boeing some change ....

[Rabbi O'Genius]

But then again......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21377954

[Sickbag]

Genius!

Boeing will propose to regulators as early as this week a short-term fix to bolster the 787′s defenses in case of battery fires like those that have kept the jet grounded for the past month.

The interim fix includes a heavy-duty titanium or steel containment box around the battery cells, and high-pressure evacuation tubes that, in the event of a battery fire, would vent any gases directly to the outside of the jet.

You couldn't make it up!


http://skift.com/2013/02/17/boeing-push ... -in-sight/

[Marc 1]

Genius!

Boeing will propose to regulators as early as this week a short-term fix to bolster the 787′s defenses in case of battery fires like those that have kept the jet grounded for the past month.

The interim fix includes a heavy-duty titanium or steel containment box around the battery cells, and high-pressure evacuation tubes that, in the event of a battery fire, would vent any gases directly to the outside of the jet.

/

Absolutely. If the galley has any problems heating coffee or meals, FA's can come down and cook on the battery box. See? That's redundancy at work...

[3WE]

Brill-yunt!

Boeing will propose to regulators as early as this week a short-term fix to bolster the 787′s defenses in case of battery fires like those that have kept the jet grounded for the past month.

The interim fix includes a heavy-duty titanium or steel containment box around the battery cells, and high-pressure evacuation tubes that, in the event of a battery fire, would vent any gases directly to the outside of the jet.

You couldn't make it up!


http://skift.com/2013/02/17/boeing-push ... -in-sight/

Fixed.

[flyboy2548m]

They've been using titanium encasement for APUs for years, so I don't see what the big deal here is.

[Marc 1]

They've been using titanium encasement for APUs for years, so I don't see what the big deal here is.

Indeed. And the damage becomes self limiting. The batteries melt down, the box heats up and melts it's way through the skin thus falling away from the airframe. Problem solved. Brill-Yunt!

[flyboy2548m]

They've been using titanium encasement for APUs for years, so I don't see what the big deal here is.

Indeed. And the damage becomes self limiting. The batteries melt down, the box heats up and melts it's way through the skin thus falling away from the airframe. Problem solved. Brill-Yunt!

I'm not aware of a single case of an APU fire resulting in said APU's departure from the airframe in the way you describe, but I'm sure you know better than me. I suppose they may want to look into a battery fire retardant system back there. Or maybe just go back to a lead-acid battery. Sure, it will be heavier, but on an aircraft that size, who cares?

[GlennAB1]

... but I'm sure you know better than me.

Are you sure about that one, Ik?

[Rabbi O'Genius]

Or maybe just go back to a lead-acid battery. Sure, it will be heavier, but on an aircraft that size, who cares?

I thought Ni/Cd was the modern standard (for Airbus at least)

http://www.airdisaster.info/forums/view ... 7&start=25

[GlennAB1]

He wants to go way back!!! lol

[Not_Karl]

They should use potatoes or lemons and copper coins.

[Marc 1]

Lets do serious steampunk - how about a kite, a key and a thunderstorm? "787 - the airliner for the ICTZ..."

[3WE]

They've been using titanium encasement for APUs for years, so I don't see what the big deal here is.

Indeed. And the damage becomes self limiting. The batteries melt down, the box heats up and melts it's way through the skin thus falling away from the airframe. Problem solved. Brill-Yunt!

I'm not aware of a single case of an APU fire resulting in said APU's departure from the airframe in the way you describe, but I'm sure you know better than me. I suppose they may want to look into a battery fire retardant system back there. Or maybe just go back to a lead-acid battery. Sure, it will be heavier, but on an aircraft made from super-light-yet-strong composite material, who cares?

Fixed.

[GlennAB1]

Brill-Yunt! Where's Charles when ya need him?

[Sickbag]

Brill-Yunt! Where's Charles when ya need him?

Where's Verbal?

My fear is that Boeing has encased him in a Titanium box without providing him with a high pressure evacuation tube.

[Verbal]

Where's Verbal?

My fear is that Boeing has encased him in a Titanium box without providing him with a high pressure evacuation tube.

I have been provided with both a supply of fresh air and facilities for disposing of my waste products. Thank you for your concern.

[flyboy2548m]

Or maybe just go back to a lead-acid battery. Sure, it will be heavier, but on an aircraft that size, who cares?

I thought Ni/Cd was the modern standard (for Airbus at least)

http://www.airdisaster.info/forums/view ... 7&start=25

My point was that in a transport-category aircraft the battery isn't so vital a component that it has to be the latest and greatest.