Ooh... "Mr. Procedures" isn't going to like this!

An open discussion of aviation safety related issues.

Moderators: FrankM, el, Dmmoore

elaw
Posts: 436
Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:01 pm
Location: Massachusetts, USA

Ooh... "Mr. Procedures" isn't going to like this!

Postby elaw » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:40 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJuEAQbxWRo

Take note of the part at 8:58 where when discussing the crew's successful efforts to save the aircraft, they mention how they pulled the circuit breakers for some of the flight controls... :shock: :mrgreen:
HR consultant, Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc.

User avatar
3WE
Posts: 4681
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:37 pm
Location: Flyover, America

Re: Ooh... "Mr. Procedures" isn't going to like this!

Postby 3WE » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:54 pm

Awesome post!

Sooooo many angles:

-Cowboy improvisation, Indeed! (and rather outside of someone's black and white viewpoint).

-Along with the CB comment, I heard something about "airmanship".

-And Cockpit Resource Management.

-Cheap composite (*see footnote) tails busting off (I wanted to know if feet were working rudder pedals in violation of the FCOM).

-Superior Boeings that fly even thought the tail is busted off.

-Landing in Blytheville, Arkansas...as I kid, I had family about 70 miles away and in the 1960's B-52's would make low altitude practice runs...very awesome.

-I'm sure I can think of some things that might have been done differently (just because it's fun to second guess insider professionals).

-A flight crew member called "navigator".

-And a youtube of an old armed-services/engineer film (always good, whether aviation-related or not).

*Footnote: That's a composite of metals, skin and structural members, not_a composite of carbon fiber and epoxy.
Commercial Pilot, Vandelay Industries, Inc., Plant Nutrient Division.

User avatar
ocelot
Posts: 324
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:26 pm

Re: Ooh... "Mr. Procedures" isn't going to like this!

Postby ocelot » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:40 pm

The part I found "interesting" was that they spent five hours flying it all over the central US before landing... :shock:

User avatar
3WE
Posts: 4681
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:37 pm
Location: Flyover, America

Re: Ooh... "Mr. Procedures" isn't going to like this!

Postby 3WE » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:57 pm

The part I found "interesting" was that they spent five hours flying it all over the central US before landing... :shock:
Well, there is that 1945-1970 notion of this broadly-applicable memory checklist.

1. Don't touch anything.
2. Light cigarette
3. Enact good, deliberate, CRM to diagnose the problem and apply appropriate procedures.

As to whether that can specifically be used on a B-52, when it was probably written for a B-17...what's the title of this thread again?
Commercial Pilot, Vandelay Industries, Inc., Plant Nutrient Division.


Return to “Aviation Safety Discussion Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Baidu [Spider] and 3 guests