Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

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Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Not_Karl » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:34 am

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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Rabbi O'Genius » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:27 am

video here

Airborne too early?
Weight distribution?
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby 3WE » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:12 pm

video here

Airborne too early?
Weight distribution?
1. The line "That's history there" was a bit too prophetic.

2. I looked at it several times- and then the guy starts saying "oh crap" I can't see or hear anything particularly wrong (however see below).

3. Since we live for totally unsubstantiated parlour talk, I will bet an adult alcho-beverage that a control lock was in place.

Because:

You typically see the tail of a tail dragger lift off early in the takeoff run- However, here, the plane seems to remain tail down, and then lift off in a very slowy-mushy-stally-spinny fashion- with no indication of nosing over to build speed.

Also to be an overly bold parlour talker, that would NEVER happen to me because I would instantly abort well before V1 (which maybe, in a perfect world, they should have done here).

Fortunately they aborted (or the plane aborted for them) before V3BS.

I liked the livery, I like DC-3's, sad deal, glad no one was killed.
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby 3WE » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:32 pm

video here

Airborne too early?
Weight distribution?
1. The line "That's history there" was a bit too prophetic.

2. I looked at it several times- and then the guy starts saying "oh crap" I can't see or hear anything particularly wrong (however see below).

3. Since we live for totally unsubstantiated parlour talk, I will bet an adult alcho-beverage that a control lock was in place.

Because:

You typically see the tail of a tail dragger lift off early in the takeoff run- However, here, the plane seems to remain tail down, and then lift off in a very slowy-mushy-stally-spinny fashion- with no indication of nosing over to build speed.

Also to be an overly bold parlour talker, that would NEVER happen to me because I would instantly abort well before V1 (which maybe, in a perfect world, they should have done here). Also, since I am perfect (from my keyboard especially) I would most definitely have removed control locks and performed control checks. /normal pontification.

Fortunately they aborted (or the plane aborted for them) before V3BS.

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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby elaw » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:33 pm

I will bet an adult alcho-beverage that a control lock was in place.
Which incidentally could have an effect very similar to that of a meteorite jammed in the elevator. :mrgreen:
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby 3WE » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:09 pm

I will bet an adult alcho-beverage that a control lock was in place.
Which incidentally could have an effect very similar to that of a meteorite jammed in the elevator. :mrgreen:

Indeed.


We may have to wait for the final report.
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Gabriel » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:31 pm

2. I looked at it several times- and then the guy starts saying "oh crap" I can't see or hear anything particularly wrong (however see below).
I think that the plane is deviating to the left of the runway, hence the "oh crap". Not sure though.
3. Since we live for totally unsubstantiated parlour talk, I will bet an adult alcho-beverage that a control lock was in place.

Because:

You typically see the tail of a tail dragger lift off early in the takeoff run- However, here, the plane seems to remain tail down, and then lift off in a very slowy-mushy-stally-spinny fashion- with no indication of nosing over to build speed.
Nice guess, and nice how you supported it.

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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Not_Karl » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:55 pm

(...)in a very slowy-mushy-stally-spinny-crashy-burnie-dieie fashion- (...)
Fixed.
I will bet an adult alcho-beverage that a control lock was in place.
Which incidentally could have an effect very similar to that of a meteorite jammed in the elevator. :mrgreen:
CONCUR.
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Rabbi O'Genius » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:09 pm

2. I looked at it several times- and then the guy starts saying "oh crap" I can't see or hear anything particularly wrong (however see below).
I think that the plane is deviating to the left of the runway, hence the "oh crap". Not sure though.
3. Since we live for totally unsubstantiated parlour talk, I will bet an adult alcho-beverage that a control lock was in place.

Because:

You typically see the tail of a tail dragger lift off early in the takeoff run- However, here, the plane seems to remain tail down, and then lift off in a very slowy-mushy-stally-spinny fashion- with no indication of nosing over to build speed.
Nice guess, and nice how you supported it.
Indeed. 3WE may well have nailed it there.
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby monchavo » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:46 pm



Indeed. 3WE may well have nailed it there.
As Julius Caesar once put it, "Veni, Vidi, Vici" - I came, I saw, I concurred. ;)
That is a wonderful pun.

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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Rabbi O'Genius » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:45 pm



Indeed. 3WE may well have nailed it there.
As Julius Caesar once put it, "Veni, Vidi, Vici" - I came, I saw, I concurred. ;)
That is a wonderful pun.
You're welcome
I must confess to being smugly satisfied with it.
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby 3WE » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:59 pm

...and nice how you supported it.
Since I like to read in things that you do not say...is this a hidden jab elsewhere that I am not_supporting my argument this with credentials?

I DO have 100 hours in a 172 and YEARS of Parlour talking to back me up.
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Gabriel » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:09 am

...and nice how you supported it.
Since I like to read in things that you do not say...is this a hidden jab elsewhere that I am not_supporting my argument this with credentials?

I DO have 100 hours in a 172 and YEARS of Parlour talking to back me up.
It is an interesting idea, I first thought you were crazy but then you explained it and it made sense. I mean, I have no idea if you are correct or not. But I liked your reasoning which involved explaining why you thought that and not showing off credentials to "prove" that you are right (as if credentials had the power to do so).

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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby flyboy2548m » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:51 pm

It is an interesting idea, I first thought you were crazy but then you explained it and it made sense. I mean, I have no idea if you are correct or not. But I liked your reasoning which involved explaining why you thought that and not showing off credentials to "prove" that you are right (as if credentials had the power to do so).
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Not_Karl » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:39 pm

It is an interesting idea, I first thought you were crazy but then you explained it and it made sense. I mean, I have no idea if you are correct or not. But I liked your reasoning which involved explaining why you thought that and not showing off credentials to "prove" that you are right (as if credentials had the power to do so).
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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Gabriel » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:53 am

It is an interesting idea, I first thought you were crazy but then you explained it and it made sense. I mean, I have no idea if you are correct or not. But I liked your reasoning which involved explaining why you thought that and not showing off credentials to "prove" that you are right (as if credentials had the power to do so).
Phugoid.
Phugoid what?

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Re: Another beautiful classic gone: "Bluebonnet Belle" DC-3

Postby Rabbi O'Genius » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:49 am



Phugoid.
Phugoid what?
Far be it from me to put words into another fellow's mouth, but the possibility that "phugoid" is intended as a somewhat contrived homonym cannot be excluded.
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