Not_Breaking: Total Air Disaster in Flyover, 50+ Years ago

[3WE]

https://www.stltoday.com/news/archives/ ... n6-IXWI_hM

Yes, of local interest. It's possible I remember this...but I can't say for sure. Whether this worldly assembly cares?

Interesting story- Significant IMC and a botched ILS...

Then botched CRM and SA as one pilot thinks go-around and the other attempts a questionable circle-to-land.

As to what really happened? Not 100% sure- there may have been an issue with asymmetrical power.

Cowboy airmanship: Probably a tad.

Some of the best of the best of the best (astronauts-in-training): Yes.

Human interest: Yes

Ironing: A shred as they crashed into the spacecraft design and assembly buildings.

Discussion worthy: I dunno- rather classic combo of great pilots, some challenges, some "we-can-do-it" vs. "liberal-caution-says-we-shouldn't", years BEFORE systematic CRM.

[ocelot]

The point of things like CRM is to systematize for everyone what top-notch folks do instinctively. Or at least, a large part of the point.

[3WE]

The point of things like CRM is to systematize for everyone what top-notch folks do instinctively. Or at least, a large part of the point.

Yes...

A little bit of structure to avoid confusion and miscommunication and attack issues with minimal delay and high efficiency...

AND, an acronym to go with it!

Footnote: there is some indication that the top notch folks here were trying to do something different.

[Rabbi O'Genius]

https://www.stltoday.com/news/archives/ ... a78.html?f

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[3WE]

Sorry Rabb:

From the article:

ST. LOUIS • Astronauts Elliott See Jr. and Charles Bassett II were the lead crew for Gemini IX, a mission scheduled for May 1966. They were to rendezvous with a satellite and give Bassett a space walk, all part of the learning curve in the race to the moon.


See and Bassett flew from Houston to St. Louis on Feb. 28, 1966, for simulator training at McDonnell Aircraft Corp., maker of the Mercury and Gemini spacecraft. Gemini IX was stored inside Building 101, known as Gemini Space Operations.


Fog and rain covered Lambert Field shortly before 9 a.m. See, piloting their T-38 military training jet, approached too high and began a tight swing around the airport. He radioed to fellow astronauts Thomas Stafford and Eugene Cernan, behind them in another NASA T-38, that he was preparing for a visual landing on the airport's diagonal runway, closer to the McDonnell complex.

3BS commentary: There was a suspicion they were slow and banked and only one afterburner lit.

[elaw]

Somewhat OT but a few days ago I watched the film "First Man" that makes brief reference to the above-mentioned accident. It's a great film... highly recommended.