737 Max troubles;:The latest news...

[Not_Karl]

The latest news: Some fun internal e-mails of peons calling leadership "Squid supervised by donkeys".

Fixed.

[Gabriel]

I deny any involvement.

Are you the clown or the monkey?

[3WE]

The latest news: Some fun internal e-mails of peons calling leadership "Donkeys supervised by squid while riding and eating humans".

Fixed.

No,

Now it's Fixed

[Verbal]

Are you the clown or the monkey?

Yes.

[Sickbag]

Any Monkeyclowns involved?

[Verbal]

Any Monkeyclowns involved?

No.

[elaw]

https://www.theonion.com/boeing-scrambl ... 1840980952

[3WE]

Eric: Linky to The Onion

There was another article: "CEO admits that the addition of a self-destruct feature may have been a mistake". Within that article it says that if they DO continue to have the feature, they might consider that it operates from a guarded switch. Not the exact words, BUT, Oh, the ironing!

[elaw]

Of course certain individuals there would say that all current airliners have a "self-destruct feature" and that is the people that occupy the cockpit.

[Gabriel]

Eric: Linky to The Onion

There was another article: "CEO admits that the addition of a self-destruct feature may have been a mistake". Within that article it says that if they DO continue to have the feature, they might consider that it operates from a guarded switch. Not the exact words, BUT, Oh, the ironing!

https://www.theonion.com/boeing-ceo-adm ... 1835588384

[3WE]

Quote=Gabriel: "I defend Trump"

[Gabriel]

Quote=Gabriel: "I defend Trump"

In some way, yes. Even I can't believe it.

[elaw]

It's really not that surprising. People who always try to do the right thing will still from time to time mess up and do something wrong. Therefore it stands to reason that someone who always tries to do the wrong thing will from time to time mess up and do something right.

[Gabriel]

It's really not that surprising. People who always try to do the right thing will still from time to time mess up and do something wrong. Therefore it stands to reason that someone who always tries to do the wrong thing will from time to time mess up and do something right.

It is not so much that he did or didn't do the right thing. Time will tell.
But what he definitively did NOT do is shoot down the Ukrainian 737.

[3WE]

It's really not that surprising. People who always try to do the right thing will still from time to time mess up and do something wrong. Therefore it stands to reason that someone who always tries to do the wrong thing will from time to time mess up and do something right.

It is not so much that he did or didn't do the right thing. Time will tell.
But what he definitively did NOT do is shoot down the Ukrainian 737.

He shares some responsibility...just like the act of takeoff is a contributing factor for almost all plane crashes...BUT God forbid THEY be anything BUT black and white (Evanie especially- but TeeVee too- You are Guilty or not guilty...court adjourned).

[elaw]

Interesting video with our favorite aviation speakist's take on Boeing's woes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_zn_x2JK5Q

[elaw]

And the hits just keep on coming... https://spacenews.com/nasa-safety-panel ... e-problem/

[Sickbag]

And the hits just keep on coming... https://spacenews.com/nasa-safety-panel ... e-problem/

Any Space Monkeyclowns involved?

[elaw]

"Quality is job... 42?" https://www.boston.com/news/travel/2020 ... 7-max-jets

[Not_Karl]

"Quality is job... 42?" https://www.boston.com/news/travel/2020 ... 7-max-jets

In aviation everything must be redundant.
If software somehow fails to make it crash then there's this hardware backup.

[J]

Boeing: Critical 737 Max test flights begin June 29
Excerpt:

The US aviation regulator has started formal test flights for Boeing's troubled 737 Max.

The test flights, which will run through a series of potential emergency scenarios, are expected to take place over several days.

Boeing's best-selling aircraft was grounded last year after two crashes killed all 346 people on the flights.

The tests are a milestone for Boeing, but even if they go well, months of further safety checks will be needed.

Aviation regulators grounded the 737 Max about 15 months ago following two crashes - a Lion Air flight and an Ethiopian Airlines flight - within five months of each other.

The ruling triggered a financial crisis at the 103-year-old company, sparked lawsuits from victims' families, and raised questions about how Boeing and the US regulator, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), conducted their safety approval process.

* * *
The FAA told BBC News that the first certification flight took off from Seattle on Monday. The flight is expected to take several hours.

Test flights had been planned for last year, but investigations uncovered an array of new safety issues that have delayed a return to service.

It could take weeks to analyse data from the test flights. But even if this process is successful, further flying, training of pilots, and clearance from European and Canadian regulators will be needed.

The European Aviation Safety Agency has maintained that clearance by the FAA will not automatically mean a clearance to fly in Europe.

Norwegian Air, TUI, and Icelandair are among airlines using the 737 Max in Europe, while other carriers have the aircraft on order.

Boeing declined to comment.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53212274

[elaw]

Here's one person's interesting take on the whole thing: https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/avi ... -developer

[3WE]

Awesome acronyms: CWTPASWTPPI

[ocelot]

Said very little about the software-specific issues involved. Kind of disappointing. Then again, IEEE Spectrum is kinda the computer version of some of the less respected aviation typists...

[J]

Southwest deploys team to bring 737 MAX jets out of desert

CHICAGO, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Southwest Airlines has sent a team of mechanics to Victorville, California to start the long process of bringing its 34 Boeing 737 MAX jets out of their desert hibernation, after the planes’ permission to fly was restored.

How passengers will feel about flying in the aircraft is unclear, although Southwest customers’ response to the MAX in a recent survey was positive, executives said.

The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration on Wednesday lifted a 20-month grounding of the Boeing Co 737 MAX sparked by two crashes that together killed 346 people within five months and mandated a series of safety changes airlines must complete before the jets can fly with passengers again.

Low-cost carrier Southwest is the largest 737 MAX operator in the world and was betting heavily on the aircraft to expand its business before the coronavirus pandemic sapped demand.

It still wants the jets, with about 15% better fuel-efficiency than other 737 models, but will closely monitor customer response, executives said on a media call on Thursday.

“How each customer feels about making a reservation on a 737 MAX or flying on a MAX is an expression of personal comfort that we know is going to be different for every person,” said Alan Kasher, senior vice president of Southwest’s air operations.

Southwest does not plan to schedule 737 MAX flights until the second quarter of 2021, and will allow anyone uncomfortable with flying the aircraft to rebook their flight at no charge.

A team of mechanics has already been keeping watch over Southwest’s 34 jets in storage in Victorville, running the engines and systems on a regular basis, and a fresh team is now there to further “depreserve and exercise” the aircraft and complete the FAA’s mandated changes, a process that will take about 280 hours, Kasher said.

Once the FAA approves the work, the jets will fly to Southwest’s main hangar cities for additional checks and maintenance. Meanwhile, its 8,000 pilots will receive fresh 737 MAX training that will include about two hours in a simulator. (Reporting by Tracy Rucinski Editing by Alexandra Hudson)

https://www.reuters.com/article/boeing- ... SL1N2I51JR