The dreaded A319 2700m/ 8860ft take-off

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The dreaded A319 2700m/ 8860ft take-off

Postby Gabriel » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:39 am

Pilots take off from an intersection that was not the intended one (and hence different from the one used in the take-off performance computations), resulting in a take-off distance available of "just" almost 9000 ft which was 678m/2224ft shorter that what they would have had from the intended intersection.
Fortunately, the aircraft was light, with a limited payload and fuel for only a short flight, so the takeoff was unremarkable and the takeoff performance was not compromised.
Had the runway been much shorter, the airplane bigger and heavy on the payload/fuel, in a hot & high condition, an engine failed close to V1, and a meteorite hit them, this could have been dangerous.

The AAIB rated it a serious incident which, jokes aside, I think it's reasonable. Why would a crew of a fully-loaded widebody in a very long flight be immune to a similar mistake? Or a crew of a similar-sized plane in a much more constrained runway?

But then why not make recommendations? I mean, something stronger than (paraphrasing) "yeah, we know, take-off performance errors keep happening in many different flavors, we continue working on this issue".

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _03-20.pdf

(yes, this is the second take-off performance incident that I post in 2 days, but no, I am not starting a campaign like I did with stalls... yet)

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Re: The dreaded A319 2700m/ 8860ft take-off

Postby Not_Karl » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:53 am

Ban all take-offs at less than 100% power.
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Re: The dreaded A319 2700m/ 8860ft take-off

Postby Gabriel » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:19 am

Ban all take-offs at less than 100% power.
And the ones from intersections.

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Re: The dreaded A319 2700m/ 8860ft take-off

Postby 3WE » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:50 pm

Ban all take-offs at less than 100% power.
And the ones from intersections.
We assume we have this covered, and we should move along and go back to our basements and MSFS while we live the dream that only we can imagine.

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