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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Gabriel » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:39 pm

I looked up the license plate number on that Lamb and it belongs to a porn star.
Lier. You know the car belongs to a porn start because you've been in it with him.

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby J » Wed May 23, 2012 10:55 pm

First 787 Built in South Carolina Takes Maiden Flight

The first aircraft manufactured at Boeing's new $750 million assembly plant in North Charleston lifted gracefully into a hazy blue sky shortly after noon. The aircraft spent about 45 minutes on the taxiway for several tests, including brakes, and to let other air traffic clear the Charleston International Airport.

Six Boeing employees were on aboard the white plane with a red tail stripe for a shakedown flight across the Southeast expected to last about four hours.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ethru.html

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Postby Verbal » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:19 pm

Keep up the good work, Brad.
Rave reviews for Boeing's 787
The Australian 06/13/2012
Author: Steve Creedy
Copyright 2012 News Ltd. All Rights Reserved

The launch customer for the Boeing 787 says it is getting better than the promised 20 per cent improvement in efficiency on long-haul routes.

ANA became the first airline to fly the composite airliner in October last year. There was some suggestion that earlier versions of the plane might not meet specification in actual airline service, but this appears not to be the case.

This is good news for customers such as Qantas, which has ordered 50 of the aircraft and plans to introduce the first 15 into the cut-throat, low-cost world of Jetstar.

ANA, which has seven of the planes, plans to take delivery of 55 by 2017 and chief executive Shinichiro Ito said the airline had bedded down well and was achieving what Boeing had promised.

“For long haul, it is slightly over 20 per cent fuel economy,’’ Mr Ito said though an interpreter, adding the figures were "very good".

The 21 per cent increase in fuel efficiency over the Boeing 767 equates to a saving of 5400 kilolitres of fuel, or the amount used on the Tokyo-Frankfurt route for month.

The aircraft was also proving popular with customers, who noticed the airliner’s lower cabin pressure, higher humidity and windows, Mr Ito said at the International Air Transport Association annual meeting in Beijing.

The more frequently he passenger flew, the more they noticed the difference, he said.

The new plane can accommodate higher humidity and cabin pressure because of its unique composite hull. This also allows windows that are much bigger than existing aircraft. These combine with a sculpted cabin to give an improved sense of space and light.

An ANA customer survey of Boeing 787 passengers to be released today found that nine in 10 said the 787 experience exceeded expectations and a quarter said they would go out of their way to fly in the plane again.

The survey of 800 passengers flying the Dreamliner from Tokyo to Frankfurt found four in five believed the new aircraft's higher humidity levels met or exceeded expectations and 92 per cent said the cabin ambience was as good as or better than they expected.

Air quality and cabin pressure met or exceeded expectations for nine in 10 passengers and four in 10 said headroom was better than expected.

The big windows met or exceeded the expectations of 90 per cent of passengers and passengers commented favourably on the aircraft’s electronic blinds, which can dim the windows by pressing button.

“Nearly half of passengers said window dimmability was better than they expected while a further 38 per cent said it fully met expectations," ANA said.

Four in 10 of those surveyed had chosen the flight because it was on a Dreamliner and 98 per cent said they would fly it again. Only 12 per cent had not heard of the plane before they got on board.
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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby J » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:46 pm

Another Crisis - More 787 Rework
(I guess this isn't as bad as a wing crack]



(Reuters) - Boeing Co's launch customer for its 787 Dreamliner, Japan's All Nippon Airways says the plane's electronic dimmable windows are not dark enough for long haul flights and has asked the U.S. aircraft maker to come up with a way to make the plane's cabin darker.

The Japanese airline is looking to install pull down blinds on 787s already delivered, an industry source with knowledge of the matter told Reuters. ANA wants darker windows for two Dreamliners operated on long haul routes, company spokesman Ryosei Nomura said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/ ... 1O20120620

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby OldSowBreath » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:50 pm

No.

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby PurduePilot » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:54 pm

I like the windows. Here's an idea--let's just not have any windows! It'll be lighter, cheaper, and easier to build! I mean, who would want to see outside?

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Sir Gallivant » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:05 pm

Replace windows with LED-screens and show a feed from an external camera. that will even give passengers over the wings a nice view. And in case of trouble, replay video of most recent succesful flight in same area, clients will be none the wiser.
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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Verbal » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:23 pm

Replace windows with LED-screens and show a feed from a porno.
Fixed.
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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby PurduePilot » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:31 am

Replace windows with LED-screens and show a feed from a porno starring sky hag.
Fixed.
Fixed.

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Sickbag » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:54 pm

The Japanese airline is looking to install pull down blinds on 787s already delivered.

So much for the future of aviation.What's next biplanes and cloth coverings?
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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Not_Karl » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:14 am

...cloth coverings?
yes
That's the planned solution when composites start to delaminate.
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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby PurduePilot » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:56 am

...cloth coverings?
yes
That's the planned solution when composites start to delaminate.
No we've gotten past that--we use speed tape nowadays.

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Sir Gallivant » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:19 am

...cloth coverings?
yes
That's the planned solution when composites start to delaminate.
No we've gotten past that--we use speed tape nowadays.
And speed tape is cloth with glue on one side and dope on the other, basically your average cloth covering. ;-)
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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby GlennAB1 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:03 pm

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
you still have to find a crew willing to fly this "barely airworthy" heap
no such thing as "barely airworthy" it's either Airworthy or Not
100% incorrect Ever hear of Ferry Permit? issued for Non airworthy aircraft
LOL

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby PurduePilot » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:30 am

I said speed tape, not medical tape.
Speed tape is an aluminized tape used to do minor repairs on aircraft. It looks similar to duct tape (silver gray), but its adhesive is capable of sticking on an airplane fuselage or wing at high speeds, hence the name. During the Vietnam War, helicopter rotor blades damaged by small-arms fire had a temporary repair performed by battle-damage repair crews in the field using the tape.[citation needed] This tape is also known as 600 mph tape.[1]

In the U.S. Air Force, it was often referred to as "thousand mile an hour" tape.

It is thermally conductive.
It has a high heat reflectivity.
It resists UV degradation for long-term durability.
It is resistant to moisture and solvents.
It is also flame resistant.

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Sir Gallivant » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:58 am

So the cloth has stronger adhesive and aluminized dope.....
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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby GlennAB1 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:52 am

Speaking of dope....
you still have to find a crew willing to fly this "barely airworthy" heap
no such thing as "barely airworthy" it's either Airworthy or Not
100% incorrect Ever hear of Ferry Permit? issued for Non airworthy aircraft
LOL

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby J » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:14 pm

Another Crisis - Air India Pilots Hack Into Boeing Training Site

Mumbai: While the debt ridden Air India is already struggling to stay afloat, its own employees seem to be dragging down the image of the beleaguered carrier further. The new problem for the airlines comes in the form of its senior-most pilots undergoing training to manoeuvre the Boeing 787 aircraft at Singapore last week. The pilots, worried that they might not be able to clear the training, allegedly tried to hack into the training module prepared by the aircraft manufacturer.
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The pilots hacked into the programme after two pilots who were sent for it earlier reportedly failed. Boeing Alteon, the aircraft manufacturer's training division, had prepared two different training modules for Air India pilots - one for those who have experience with Boeing aircraft, and another for those who have experience with Airbus.

While Boeing pilots train for 15 days, Airbus pilots undergo training for 45 days. "The pilots who have failed have experience with Airbus aircraft," the source further added.
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Boeing 787 has been the source of great friction between two pilot groups in Air India. The Indian Pilots Guild (IPG) of erstwhile Air India operate Boeing aircraft, while Indian Commercial Pilots Association (ICPA) comprising erstwhile Indian Airlines pilots mostly operate the Airbus fleet. These two groups have long been at loggerheads over training for 787. While IPG members want to be the sole groups of pilots with know-how on flying Boeing, ICPA members wanted an equal share in training. The Air India management later decided to send an equal number of pilots from both the groups for training on 787.

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Sir Gallivant » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:27 pm

Good to see that pilots strive to acheive a high degree of knowledge and airmanship, even if they have to add further to their knowledge by learning hacking skills....
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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Peter_K » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:04 pm

The pilots who have failed have experience with Airbus aircraft
How to tell the difference between an experienced and inexperienced Airbus pilot?




The former will say "what it’s doing now?", while the later will say "sh!t, it’s doing that again!"

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby J » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:27 pm

From a Blog with photographs:
Boeing’s earning call earlier today (July 25) provides an opportunity for me to show recent photos taken of the 787 production line in Everett’s Blg 40-26. The photos were taken last month but embargoed until the Farnborough air show, and graphically illustrate the improved condition of assembly (COA) of airframes as the travel down the line.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 8b41bcf51b

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby PurduePilot » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:13 pm

From a Blog with photographs:
Boeing’s earning call earlier today (July 25) provides an opportunity for me to show recent photos taken of the 787 production line in Everett’s Blg 40-26. The photos were taken last month but embargoed until the Farnborough air show, and graphically illustrate the improved condition of assembly (COA) of airframes as the travel down the line.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 8b41bcf51b
Much nicer/easier/safer to get around without all the temporary scaffolding to finish up traveled jobs. Amazing to see stuff happening in-sequence.

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Verbal » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:54 pm

Seems a little premature to rule out FOD. Someone could have left a tool inside the engine. Seeing as this involved an Air India airplane, we can expect another 6 months of bureaucratic red tape.
Dreamliner Engine Problems Investigated
The Wall Street Journal 07/30/2012
Author: Jon Ostrower
(Copyright (c) 2010, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)

Boeing Co. and U.S. safety officials are investigating the engine problems that saw debris from a new 787 Dreamliner spark a grass fire at Charleston International Airport in South Carolina during a preflight test.

The company declined to provide more details about Saturday's incident, though it is working with the National Transportation Safety Board.

Saturday's incident involved a 787 destined for Air India and powered by engines made by General Electric Co.

The GEnx engine involved in the Charleston incident showed no signs of damage to the large front fan, said a person directly familiar with the investigation. The person ruled out a foreign object being sucked into the engine and said the focus of scrutiny is on the rear components in the engine's turbine sections.

GE spokesman Rick Kennedy confirmed debris exited the rear of the engine and was contained by the casing that surrounds the engine's hot core. The engine will be shipped to a company facility in North Carolina or Ohio for further examination.

Boeing said it was "unaware of any operational issue that would present concerns about the continued safe operation of in-service 787s powered by GE engines.

The NTSB wasn't immediately available for comment.

Japan Airlines Co. is currently the only operator of GEnx-powered 787s. The airline has four 787s in its fleet, all operating on international routes.

Becky Beaman, spokeswoman for Charleston airport, said the main runway at the airport was closed for an hour and 10 minutes Saturday while crews responded to a grass fire sparked by the hot engine debris.

The new factory is connected to Charleston International Airport, which serves both commercial and U.S. Air Force flights.

Boeing operates Dreamliner assembly lines in South Carolina and Everett, Wash., its primary twin-aisle jet factory. The Charleston factory rolled out its first Dreamliner in April, and the second was involved in Saturday's incident.

The incident came less than a week after several All Nippon Airways Co. Rolls-Royce PLC Trent 1000-powered 787s were temporarily grounded in Japan after corrosion was found in gearbox components. Boeing CEO Jim McNerney said Wednesday the last of five affected Dreamliners would return to service early this week.
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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby Giles » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:46 am

Was an investigation into the electronics fire (of which I posted pictures of but Boeing demanded it be removed) on one of the 787 during testing ever done? If so, who did the report? (Boeing, FAA, NTSB). If there was an investigation was a report released that is publicly accessible?

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Re: 787 troubles, the latest news..

Postby PurduePilot » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:58 am

Was an investigation into the electronics fire (of which I posted pictures of but Boeing demanded it be removed) on one of the 787 during testing ever done? If so, who did the report? (Boeing, FAA, NTSB). If there was an investigation was a report released that is publicly accessible?
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