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A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby flyboy2548m » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:34 am

Today the industry lost arguably the best First Officer it ever had.

That is all.
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby 3WE » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:55 am

Man, I'm dense.

Thought you had quit to make similar $ to Putt-4-Parr.

Instead...you are now like ITS, Dummy Pilot, and Boeing Bobby and have to learn how to use your left hand to not only fly the cheap composite cracker box, but more importantly to steer it into parking places..

Congrats.
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby J » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:39 am

Congratulations Ike. Your many years of hard work have now paid off and we are happy for you.

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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby Rabbi O'Genius » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:21 pm

Congratulations Ike. Your many years of hard work have now paid off and we are happy for you.
Hear, hear! :clap:
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby Gabriel » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:25 pm

Wow, so may stripes!!! Congratulations for the achievement.

To quick somehow related question.

Is it correct that typically (often? sometimes? seldom?) FOs have the option to make progress in their careers by moving to captain in the same type or to FO in a higher type? If yes, I wonder what are the pros and cons of each.

Once you are captain, do pilots typically move as captain when are "promoted" to a bigger type? Or they need to be FOs in the new type first?

I would like to have a better understanding of how the pilot career progress work, just out of curiosity of course.

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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby flyboy2548m » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:14 pm

Wow, so may stripes!!! Congratulations for the achievement.

To quick somehow related question.

Is it correct that typically (often? sometimes? seldom?) FOs have the option to make progress in their careers by moving to captain in the same type or to FO in a higher type? If yes, I wonder what are the pros and cons of each.

Once you are captain, do pilots typically move as captain when are "promoted" to a bigger type? Or they need to be FOs in the new type first?

I would like to have a better understanding of how the pilot career progress work, just out of curiosity of course.
In the US, a pilot can hold any seat in any type that his seniority allows. That is to say, if he/she is senior enough, there is nothing that says they can't go from MD-80 F/O to 777 CA without any intermediate stops, provided there are openings for the latter.
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby ZilogMan » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:22 pm

Thumbs Up, monsieur Ike!

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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby Gabriel » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:52 pm

Wow, so may stripes!!! Congratulations for the achievement.

To quick somehow related question.

Is it correct that typically (often? sometimes? seldom?) FOs have the option to make progress in their careers by moving to captain in the same type or to FO in a higher type? If yes, I wonder what are the pros and cons of each.

Once you are captain, do pilots typically move as captain when are "promoted" to a bigger type? Or they need to be FOs in the new type first?

I would like to have a better understanding of how the pilot career progress work, just out of curiosity of course.
In the US, a pilot can hold any seat in any type that his seniority allows. That is to say, if he/she is senior enough, there is nothing that says they can't go from MD-80 F/O to 777 CA without any intermediate stops, provided there are openings for the latter.
Ok, I got that. Thank you.
But my question was more regarding how things work (typically), what a pilot can expect in terms of career growth, not what is legally admissible.

For the first question, I guess that, typically, you will have a good bunch of MD-80 CA and 777 FO that will want this 777 CA seat and will have priority over an MD-80 F/O. So what are the pros, cons, and chances to move left on the MD-80 vs moving up on the right seat?

For the second question (say a MD-90 CA moving to a 777), do airlines (not regulators) typically request that a captain in smaller type has some say few hundreds of hours on the new bigger type before acting as the captain/PIC on that type? (I actually think the answer to that question is "no", but that's just a guess)

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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby Not_Karl » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:24 am

Congratulations!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby GlennAB1 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:23 am

Hey, Congratulations, if that what you wanna do!!!!

Tell George I said Hi!!!
you still have to find a crew willing to fly this "barely airworthy" heap
no such thing as "barely airworthy" it's either Airworthy or Not
100% incorrect Ever hear of Ferry Permit? issued for Non airworthy aircraft
LOL

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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby flyboy2548m » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:54 am

Ok, I got that. Thank you.
But my question was more regarding how things work (typically), what a pilot can expect in terms of career growth, not what is legally admissible.

For the first question, I guess that, typically, you will have a good bunch of MD-80 CA and 777 FO that will want this 777 CA seat and will have priority over an MD-80 F/O. So what are the pros, cons, and chances to move left on the MD-80 vs moving up on the right seat?

For the second question (say a MD-90 CA moving to a 777), do airlines (not regulators) typically request that a captain in smaller type has some say few hundreds of hours on the new bigger type before acting as the captain/PIC on that type? (I actually think the answer to that question is "no", but that's just a guess)
If those MD-80 CAs and 777 FOs are junior to our MD-80 FO, they have zero priority over him, regardless of what they want. That was kind of my point.

I'm not aware of such "requests" by airlines, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Les Stature actually wrote a pretty decent article about seniority a few years back, but I couldn't find it.
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby Gabriel » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:04 pm

Thank you.

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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby Sickbag » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:01 am

I blame Trump
TRUMP: in-presidency structural break-up
within 18 months...

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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby 3WE » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:39 pm

I blame Trump
Indeed!

Flyboy had years of beautiful, broad experience. His knowledge was tops. He will make US aviation great again!
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby flyboy2548m » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:44 pm

I blame Trump
Indeed!

Flyboy had years of beautiful, broad experience. His knowledge was tops.
Was?
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby 3WE » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:01 pm

I blame Trump
Indeed!

Flyboy had years of beautiful, broad experience. His knowledge was tops.
Was?
I was distracted and struggling as to how El Presidente would sell your move to Captainship while addressing America with the news.

I forgot my fundamentals of past vs. present tense...

But your knowledge is indeed, beautiful...your mind is full of binders of knowledge.
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby Rabbi O'Genius » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:33 pm


I was distracted and struggling......
Was?
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby 3WE » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:41 pm


I was distracted and struggling......
Was?
Yes...when I wrote that post I WAS distracted.

As I write this post I AM distracted.

When you read this post, I WILL BE distracted.
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby 3WE » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:46 pm


Indeed!

Flyboy had years of beautiful, broad experience. His knowledge was tops.
Was?
I was distracted and struggling as to how El Presidente would sell your move to Captainship while addressing America with the news.

I forgot my fundamentals of past vs. present tense...

But your knowledge is indeed, beautiful...your mind is full of binders of knowledge.
Actually I did not forget my fundamentals...it was context.

"His knowledge WAS tops, WHEN he was, arguably, one of the best first officers ever to operate in the industry. He WILL BE an excellent Captain...a beautiful captain."
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby PurduePilot » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:47 am

Well done.

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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby Ancient Mariner » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:10 pm

What? Silver, not like mine, gold?
Regardless, many congratulations, the fruit of hard work and stubbornness.
Well done!
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby flyboy2548m » Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:07 pm

What? Silver, not like mine, gold?
Regardless, many congratulations, the fruit of hard work and stubbornness.
Well done!
Per
Thanks. Silver with lighter blue accent stripes on a navy background, to be real exact.
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Re: A Hugely Important Announcement

Postby ocelot » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:27 am

Woops, I almost missed this. Congratulations! :clap:


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