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737, It just keeps going and going.

Postby 3WE » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:49 pm

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Re: 737, It just keeps going and going.

Postby Not_Karl » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:26 pm

According to Evan, it's obsolete.
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Postby 3WE » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:50 pm

I guess that short little fire-plug looking one is obsolete...half the engines of a 707...half the fuselage length...

Of course, I guess we could say the same about the DC-9-15.
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Postby J » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:40 pm

In other news (including loads of photographs)

Boeing unveils latest 737 airliner in Renton

The most ubiquitous airliner in the history of flight just welcomed the newest member of its family at Boeing's Renton factory Monday morning, just south of Seattle.

Hundreds, if not thousands, of Boeing employees were on hand to get a glimpse of the first completed 737 MAX 7, the third and longest range of the MAX line.

The new jet, with a capacity of up to 172 passengers and a range of 3,850 nautical miles, is set to begin flight testing in the coming weeks, with first deliveries to Southwest Airlines scheduled for 2019.

Boeing will start with a variety of systems checks and tests on the flight deck before taking the new plane to the skies. It will be one of two 737 MAX 7s used for testing.

Boeing's 737 first entered service in 1968, four years after its inception as a short-haul jetliner to supplement the 727. Throughout a bevy of variations over the intervening years, the 737 became the best-selling commercial airliner in history.

The 737 MAX 8 entered service in 2017 and the MAX 9 is set for deliveries later in 2018, according to Boeing. A MAX 10 variant, announced at last year's Paris Air Show, will be the largest of the 737 MAX family, with room for 230 passengers. That plane is set to enter service in 2020.
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Postby elaw » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm

The new jet, with a capacity of up to 172 passengers and a range of 3,850 nautical miles
Or just about the same as a 707-120B! 8-)
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Postby J » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:31 pm

BNSF, MRL (Montana Rail Link) move 10,000th Boeing 737 fuselage

An aviation milestone has been achieved thanks to a half-century of railroad transport. Spirit AeroSystems announced on Feb. 14 that the 10,000th 737 fuselage had left its factory in Wichita, Kans., and was en route by rail to Boeing’s massive assembly plant in Renton, Wash.

With the commemorative phrase “10,000 Deliveries” on its side and tail, the fuselage was among two that headed west from Wichita on BNSF, eventually being added to the head end of train Q-ALTPTL, an Alliance, Tex., to Portland, Ore., intermodal. The usual Boeing body routing via BNSF-Montana Rail Link-BNSF delivered the historic load to the Seattle area on Feb. 18.

Rail shipment of fuselages, wing assemblies and other commercial aircraft components from source plants in Kansas and Texas to Boeing assembly plants in Renton and Everett, Wash., began in the 1960s. Boeing models from the 707 up to the 777 have had parts shipped by rail, but it’s the 737 that has become the most prominent feature of this unique service. Complete 737 fuselages travel on flatcars, while partial fuselages for larger aircraft, wing sections and other oversized parts are shipped inside custom-built enclosed cars.

BNSF and Boeing commemorated the delivery of the 5,000th 737 fuselage to Renton back in January 2006. At that time, BNSF said it was shipping 28 fuselages every month. By 2013, shipments had reached 35 or more per month, made possible by the addition of 14 more railcars to the specialized BNSF/Boeing fleet.

Spirit AeroSystems acquired Boeing’s commercial aviation plant in Wichita in 2005. Boeing says the 737 has been its most successful commercial aircraft. With more than 4,600 currently on order, Boeing says it will increase production of its 737 to an astonishing 52 per month in 2018, and as many as 57 per month in 2019. That will keep BNSF and MRL busy moving wing-less aircraft toward the Pacific Northwest.

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Postby elaw » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:55 pm

With more than 4,600 currently on order, Boeing says it will increase production of its 737 to an astonishing 52 per month in 2018, and as many as 57 per month in 2019.
Of course to a certain participant there, any number > 0 is astonishing. :lol:
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Postby Rabbi O'Genius » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:01 pm

With more than 4,600 currently on order, Boeing says it will increase production of its 737 to an astonishing 52 per month in 2018, and as many as 57 per month in 2019.
Of course to a certain participant there, any number > 0 is astonishing. :lol:
Conspiracy theorists will be quick to note that this was your post number 380.
Coincidence? I think not :shock:
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Postby J » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:29 pm

Southwest Considering 300 New 737's or A220's
Excerpt below. As the article could not be cut and pasted, I served briefly as an aviation typist and copied the following sentences just for you. You're welcome.

Southwest Airlines is in talks for at least 300 new 150-seat jets for its fleet, as part of a deal that could transform its five-decade old business model and the commercial aircraft industry with it, according to several industry officials…..

The deal is Boeing and GE’s to lose, according to senior leaders at the airline, anchored by the power of its incumbency and the 737 fleet continuity that has made WN the carrier it is today.


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Postby J » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:11 pm

Article (with many photos) discusses various tests including flight deck touch screens, lower profile anti-collision lights (one is mounted in a blanked out window opening) and interior panels manufactured from recycled plastic.

Take a look at the new Alaska Airlines 737 MAX that Boeing is using as a flying laboratory

https://thepointsguy.com/news/boeing-al ... ility/amp/

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Postby Not_Karl » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:56 pm

Article (with many photos) discusses various tests including flight deck touch screens, lower profile anti-collision lights (one is mounted in a blanked out window opening) and interior panels manufactured from recycled plastic.
Oh, no... I hate touchscreens!
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Postby ocelot » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:02 am

Touchscreens seem like a real bad idea for night ops and worse for smoke in the cockpit.

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737, It just keeps Not_going anywhere.

Postby Not_Karl » Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:33 am

Old, always unairworthy, obsolete-by-design B737-200 Ancientliner keeps screwing us even after its retirement.
Googlie translated article (original with picture and crappy looping video here):
Córdoba: a plane got stuck under a bridge in the middle of the route
It was during the transfer of a fuselage that was abandoned at the Ambrosio Taravella airport. It was bought by a businessman to transform it into a themed bar.


(...)

The unusual situation, which generated enormous complications in traffic, occurred this Tuesday minutes before 4:00 p.m., when the plane was transported by land by truck. The mishap happened when he tried to go under a bridge on the Circunvalación: the roof of the plane hit the cement and got stuck.

The fuselage of a Boeing 737-200 plane that was abandoned at the Ambrosio Taravella airport was removed this Tuesday to be used as a theme bar in the town of Oncativo.

In the past, the aircraft was part of a fleet belonging to the defunct commercial passenger airline Southern Winds (SW). After 17 years stranded at the international airport, it was auctioned off and acquired by businessman Oscar Scorza.

(...)

Scorza assured that they had measured the plane exactly, but that a work that they did not contemplate caused the jam to be generated: “We knew that the lowest bridge was on Juan B. Justo, which was a little overpaved. By 10 centimeters we did not pass. A new layer of asphalt.

The businessman said that they finally managed to remove the fuselage with the help of the police and the Caminera whom he thanked for the operation: "The truth is an excellent job and we already removed it," he stressed and added: "The truth is that we apologize to the people because we interfered a little in traffic.”

The truth is that there are three planes that the businessman moves to Oncativo. According to what he told him, one of them will become a bar-restaurant and meeting room at the Nono Luigi hotel, located near Impira.

"It may sound crazy, but we're going to make it," he said of the project. The Boeing will be completely converted and will only keep the seats. It will have a capacity for 300 people and an outdoor dance floor.

The businessman also acquired the access gangway to the aircraft. “When they enter the hotel they are going to find the sleeve of the plane. The feeling is going to be like being in an airport,” he noted.

Another will be located in the Malvinas Museum in Oliva, given that combatants were transferred from Comodoro Rivadavia to Puerto Argentino in an aircraft of this type. With the plane remaining, there is no concrete plan yet.
Let's hope that airlinies don't find out about the projected capacity... Or the outdoor dance floor.
Aeroplanie data here, 1975 vintage.
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Postby Verbal » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:33 pm

Team,

We are off to a great start in 2023. Our customers continue to show us through orders that our portfolio of airplanes remains critical in meeting their needs.

Due to this strong product demand, I’m pleased to announce we will establish a fourth 737 MAX production line in Everett beginning in the second half of 2024. This line will be housed in the 40-26 building and current 787 work will be shifted to other available Everett high bay space.

Most of our Renton 737 MAX teammates will remain in Renton as we reactivate our third line and continue production on the other two lines there. A small group, along with some Everett teammates and some new hires, will help us open this fourth line, known as the North Line. These teammates will have local Everett management, but tree up to the 737 MAX program office.

To be clear, we are not taking the 737 out of Renton – just adding capacity to capture customer demand, especially for the newer models like the -8200 and 737-10. Given the proximity to Renton, Everett is a great fit with the availability of highly-skilled workers and factory space.

This undertaking is significant. In addition to preparing the facility, we have begun the process of notifying and preparing our suppliers, customers, unions and employees as we take the necessary steps to create a new line. We are methodically working through all of our checks and balances keeping safety and quality top of mind.

We greatly appreciate the support of the Washington delegation in Congress, especially Senators Murray and Cantwell and Representatives Smith and Larsen, who represent our Renton and Everett sites respectively, as well as our government leaders here in the state. This announcement underscores our commitment to the state and to Washington workers, and we also thank the IAM for working closely with us to support safe certification of the MAX-7 and MAX-10.

Thank you to everyone who will help prepare us for this exciting opportunity.

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737, It just keeps getting older and older...

Postby Not_Karl » Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:09 pm

(...)we will establish a fourth production line for a grossly obsolete relic from the sixties that should have been retired decades ago(...)
New 757 WHEN?!?!?
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Postby Verbal » Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:18 pm

New 757 WHEN?!?!?
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Postby elaw » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:21 pm

I read somewhere that in the early days of jet airliners, both Boeing and "brand D" made the decision to mount the engines in separate pods on the wings (instead of in pairs a la B-52) because they thought with the two-in-a-pod scheme, pax might be concerned that a failure in one engine could take out it's "podmate".

I wonder if something similar could happen with those designs: "Look at that thing, the wings are so weak they needed to put braces on them!"
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[i]We[/i] said [b]"new"[/b]

Postby Not_Karl » Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:46 pm

New 757 WHEN?!?!?
A relic from the sixties, grossly obsolete DC-9 with new flimsy cheap-composite wings, cockpit, engines and probably MCAS.jpg
Ok, obviously we and Boeing have differing concepts of "new"... :roll:
I wonder if something similar could happen with those designs: "Look at that thing, the wings are so weak they needed to put braces on them!"
It has always happened with wings and horizontal stabilizers. They have to put two of each in case one breaks-off... :roll:
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Re: 737, It just keeps going and going.

Postby Gabriel » Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:58 pm

New 757 WHEN?!?!?
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The brand new MD-152!

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Postby Verbal » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:31 pm

(...)we will establish a fourth production line for a grossly obsolete relic from the sixties that should have been retired decades ago(...)
No.
A relic from the sixties, grossly obsolete DC-9 with new flimsy cheap-composite wings, cockpit, engines and probably MCAS.jpg
No.
The brand new MD-152!
No.

Hope this helps.

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Postby Not_Karl » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:36 am

Hope this helps.
No.
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Postby Gabriel » Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:41 am

Regards, Dr. Sigmund von Verbal
Are you Horscht?
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Postby Verbal » Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:38 pm

Are you Horscht?
Possibly.

Are you Karl?
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Re: 737, It just keeps getting older and older...

Postby Gabriel » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:10 pm

Are you Horscht?
Possibly.

Are you Karl?
Possibly not.


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