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Re: A380 troubles, the latest news...

Postby elaw » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:07 pm

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Re: A380 troubles, the latest news...

Postby J » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:17 pm

Second ex-Singapore Airlines A380 Stored In Tarbes - (from March 6)

TOULOUSE – Tarmac Aerosave, a company specializing in aircraft storage, maintenance and dismantling, on Feb. 19 received a second Airbus A380 at its Tarbes, France facility for storage. The aircraft, registered 9V-SKB, bears serial number MSN005. It entered service early in 2008 with Singapore Airlines, which has just returned it to its owner, German-based lessor Dr. Peters. It flew on Feb. 9 from Singapore.

It is being stored “in flight-ready condition,” meaning Dr. Peters is looking for a new operator. Storage in flight-ready condition enables a return to service in two or three days but the aircraft will receive a new livery and a new cabin interior before it flies with a different airline. Tarmac has a contract to store another two Dr. Peters-owned A380s, bringing the total of ex-Singapore Airlines A380s to be stored in Tarbes to four.

Tarmac anticipates more demand for A380 storage. The type's size and weight require specific handling and the company has built suitable facilities – nine outdoor parking areas and one hangar – in Tarbes. There, it plans to add nine outdoor parking areas by 2020.

At its second location in Teruel, Spain, Tarmac can already accommodate “many more” A380s on outdoor areas, thanks to the site's dimensions, the company says. Two A380-size hangars will be built by 2020. Hangars are needed for long-term storage, which requires regular landing gear testing.

Airbus is one of Tarmac's shareholder. Late this year, the manufacturer is to start retrofitting the passenger cabins of 14 Singapore Airlines A380s.

http://www.mro-network.com/maintenance- ... red-tarbes

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Re: A380 troubles, the latest news...

Postby J » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:55 pm

Earlier we read that Wet Lease Company HiFly was taking two retired Singapore A380's but this article suggests the two plans are to be parted out for spares.


June 5, 2018 / 3:34 AM / Updated 11 minutes ago
Spurned by airlines, first A380 jets to be stripped for parts
Excerpt:
Singapore Airlines launched A380 services in December 2007, but returned the first two aircraft to their German financiers some 10 years later after deciding not to extend their lease.

The two discarded aircraft were flown to Tarbes in the French Pyrenees to be stored, and since then their fate has been uncertain as their owner looked for other takers.

“After extensive as well as intensive negotiations with various airlines such as British Airways, HiFly and IranAir, Dr Peters Group has decided to sell the aircraft components and will recommend this approach to its investors,” the company said in a statement emailed to Reuters.
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The planes will not be scrapped entirely, but their huge frames will be combed for valuable components such as landing gears and electronics, a Dr Peters official told Reuters.

Their engines have already been removed and leased back to manufacturer Rolls-Royce (RR.L) for use as spares and Dr Peters aims to extend this arrangement.

U.S.-based company VAS Aero Services will be responsible for extracting and selling parts.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airb ... SKCN1J10R2

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Re: A380 troubles, the latest news...

Postby Verbal » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:27 pm

I wonder if these two A380s will beat the record set by the A340-500/600 for shortest time build-to-scrap.

Airbus: home of the disposable airplane.
German investor to sell unwanted A380 superjumbos for parts
Reuters News 06/05/2018
Author: Tim Hepher

SYDNEY (Reuters) - A German investment company said on Tuesday it planned to sell the components of two unwanted Airbus A380 superjumbo jets, in an apparent move to send the world's largest jetliner to the breakers yard for the first time due to slack demand.

Dortmund-based Dr Peters Group said it had decided to sell the parts of aircraft returned by Singapore Airlines after failing to negotiate new leases with airlines including British Airways, IranAir and HiFly. It did not say how many jets were involved but said they were spread between two funds.
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Re: A380 troubles, the latest news...

Postby J » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:08 pm

More information:

The following article does not allow pasting of text but states that these are the two planes that HiFly had earlier planned to acquire. "...HiFly ultimately failed to produce a convincing business case for the deal structure they had envisioned..." In addition, BA had supposedly investigated used A380's but didn't want to take delivery until 2021 when their 747's were to be retired.
The article continues by stating the original list price was $250 Million (it is currently $445 Million) and that sale of the parts could generate $80 Million / aircraft.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rest-fades

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Re: A380 troubles, the latest news...

Postby J » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:36 pm

Hi Fly A380 Arrives in Malta For Repainting

Text from the following article cannot be "pasted" but i'll summarize by saying that former Singapore 9VSKC (MSN6 - which I assume means the 6th production A380) will have 12 First Class, 60 Business and 399 Economy-Class Seats. Hi Fly is a wet leasing company meaning it will supply the plane with crew for short term leases by other carriers.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ng-449959/

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Re: A380 troubles, the latest news...

Postby J » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:47 pm

So the former Singapore A380s, now operated by wet leasing firm HiFly are now operating for Norwegian between Gatwick and JFK.
Headline could have read, Airbus Bails out Boeing and Rolls Royce.



Used Airbus A380 Bails Out Norwegian Air But Not Everyone Is Happy

Norwegian had been using leased Airbus A330 and A340 as “cover” for out-of-service aircraft. In June Norwegian even deployed an aging Boeing 747 from WAMOS Air, which TripAdvisor rates “two stars.” The WAMOS 747 was described by passengers as “out of the 1980’s”, with stained seats, no working TV screens and ashtrays in the armrests. One flight had to return to the UK after reporting ‘smoke in the cabin.’

So the bar may be low, but Norwegian’s rented A380 should satisfy far more passengers than the old 747. Hi Fly says their A380 will seat 471 passengers, with Business and First Class on the upper deck, Economy below. Singapore’s A380 aircraft are famous for their private suites with lie-flat beds. So some lucky passengers who book seats in Norwegian’s premium cabin might get to hang in the private suite, and hopefully get tucked into the lie-flat beds.

The economy experience should be also be positive. At 12-15 years old, the HiFly A380 is hardly ancient and should provide comfortable seating and a potential ‘walk-around’ experience for most passengers.

So far it’s not possible to book a set seat; Norwegian has told reporters that even premium seating will be randomly assigned. But aviation blogger Sam Chui claims you can fly A380 on Norwegian from August 3 to August 23 for as low as $614.90 in first/business class or an economy ticket from as low as $239.90. (I found somewhat higher fares on Norwegian.com.) Chui say you are most likely to snare the A380 on these flights: DI7015 London Gatwick to New York JFK departing 5:05PM arriving 8:05PM, and DI7016 New York JFK to London Gatwick departing 11:00PM arriving 11:00AM (+1 day).

Still, it’s not all strawberries and cream for Norwegian and its A380. The flights from London to NY do not appear on Airbus’ dedicated WWW.IFLYA380.com website, nor does Norwegian Air show up on the list of “A380 Airlines” on the site.

More importantly, travel bloggers are reporting “massive” flight delays on Norwegian's A380 flights that range from 3 hours, 19 minutes to 4 hours, 47 minutes.

Norwegian attributes the problem to “airport restrictions” at JFK. The airport’s Terminal 1 is apparently very limited in the number of A380 boardings it can handle at once. Reportedly, no dedicated A380 gate was available at the time Norwegian scheduled the flight. :o

A Norwegian spokesperson said “We are fully aware of the situation and working on improving it as soon as possible.”

The silver lining for passengers (although another headache for Norwegian) is that by European law, passengers flying to or from the continent delayed more than 4 hours may be eligible for up to 600 euros in compensation. :o This is a situation companies like AirHelp are set up to exploit.

So will Norwegian/HiFly/A380 passengers get a comfortable flight, or a long delay and an eventual check? And by switching from grounded 787s to the A380, has Norwegian jumped from the frying pan into the fire? Stay tuned for the next installment of “As The A380 Turns.”


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Re: A380 troubles, the latest news...

Postby Not_Karl » Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:27 pm

The WAMOS 747 was described by passengers as “out of the 1980’s”, with stained seats, no working TV screens...
Nice! :D The only IFE I'm interested in is a window.
...and ashtrays in the armrests. One flight had to return to the UK after reporting ‘smoke in the cabin.’
Seems logical. They should have asked BBie to slightly open a hatch...
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