Re: A380 troubles, the latest news...
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:45 am
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No.I am led to understand that Hilditch accepts Lunch Aid.
Here's how Lunch Aid works. You invite someone to lunch and offer to pay for their food, with the following stipulations. They have to pay you back only if they finish the entire meal. If they can not finish the meal, or if it does not live up to expectations in some way, then they don't have to pay you back. You have to pay the cost of their lunch. See that? Simple.
And this is different from any other investment in what way?I am led to understand that Hilditch accepts Lunch Aid.
Here's how Lunch Aid works. You invite someone to lunch and offer to pay for their food, with the following stipulations. They have to pay you back only if they finish the entire meal. If they can not finish the meal, or if it does not live up to expectations in some way, then they don't have to pay you back. You have to pay the cost of their lunch. See that? Simple.
Well, I've already posted in this thread, so please keep up.DHWNPITT.
Verbal, see?Well, I've already posted in this thread, so please keep up.DHWNPITT.
As to the issue here, let's all grow up. We've discussed this ad nauseam here and on multiple forums. Those without an ax to grind know perfectly well that the US and the EU (not to mention the Brazilians, the Canadians and the Russians) assist and subsize their aviation industries in various different direct and indirect ways. Aviation is a high profile business with important economic, political and cultural reach in most countries with a stake, so it's not surprising that this happens. Next ?
DHWPITT.Well, I've already posted in this thread, so please keep up.DHWNPITT.
I don't think the correctness of governments assisting their industries is the question here. The question is whether it is done legally and applied fairly.As to the issue here, let's all grow up. We've discussed this ad nauseam here and on multiple forums. Those without an ax to grind know perfectly well that the US and the EU (not to mention the Brazilians, the Canadians and the Russians) assist and subsize their aviation industries in various different direct and indirect ways. Aviation is a high profile business with important economic, political and cultural reach in most countries with a stake, so it's not surprising that this happens. Next ?
DHHPITTDHWPITT.Well, I've already posted in this thread, so please keep up.DHWNPITT.
Now that was funny!I don't think the correctness of governments assisting their industries is the question here. The question is whether it is done legally and applied fairly.As to the issue here, let's all grow up. We've discussed this ad nauseam here and on multiple forums. Those without an ax to grind know perfectly well that the US and the EU (not to mention the Brazilians, the Canadians and the Russians) assist and subsize their aviation industries in various different direct and indirect ways. Aviation is a high profile business with important economic, political and cultural reach in most countries with a stake, so it's not surprising that this happens. Next ?
If the president does it then that makes it legal...I don't think the correctness of governments assisting their industries is the question here. The question is whether it is done legally and applied fairly.
Are you Richard Nixon?If the president does it then that makes it legal...
Well, loyalty to one's employer is an admirable quality, but it separates one from neutrality, objectivity and sound judgment.I don't think the correctness of governments assisting their industries is the question here. The question is whether it is done legally and applied fairly.
Or what, you'll leave never to post again? Don't be such a tease.Well, I've already posted in this thread, so please keep up.
Airbus is confident that it has put the A380's production woes behind it after the latest initiatives have seen a significant improvement in the completion state of subassemblies when they reach the assembly line, which has dramatically reduced the out-of-sequence workload.
The airframer struggled to keep output of the superjumbo on track last year as production issues combined with the complication of having to manage several customer deferrals caused deliveries to fall well short of target.
In total, 10 A380s were delivered in 2009 - two fewer than 2008 - but Airbus is confident that deliveries will more than double this year as monthly output gradually rises from two to three aircraft over the next 18 months.
Loyalty. That is funny. That is very, very funny.Well, loyalty to one's employer is an admirable quality, but it separates one from neutrality, objectivity and sound judgment.
If you are one of the 153 signatory nations to the WTO, then it is more than a talking shop.Legal : As far as I know, the World Trade Organization is not a court and has no ability to enforce its judgments or to impose any punishments. It's a talking shop.
Such as? We're waiting.... (And ribald tales of Boeing accepting truck loads of U.S. gummint cash earmarked for military development programs and taking them over to the commercial side of the company for executives to spend on liquor and fat women don't count.)I could list half a dozen current or historic "subsidy" practices carried out by the US Government and/or American manufacturers to which Airbus/EADS would object as "not fair".
...which is the reason why those incentives were enacted.In 2004 the State of Washington enacted a number of tax and other incentives to promote the aerospace industry. Sure, Boeing is the biggest player there...
If Airbus had the foresight to build a plant in Washington then those incentives wouldn't exist. There would have been different incentives, carefully designed to funnel the money to Boeing and to keep it away from Airbus.So if Airbus had the foresight to build a plant in Washington instead of Alabama, they could have taken advantage of those incentives.
The Netherlands have no chance against either Germany or Spain.If Airbus had the foresight to build a plant in Washington then those incentives wouldn't exist. There would have been different incentives, carefully designed to funnel the money to Boeing and to keep it away from Airbus.
Considering that we are teaching all the above how to be our future competitors, you are correct.Boeing and Airbus would be better advised just to get on with the job of building world-class airplanes while they can still do so, or they will lose the plot to the Brazilians, Canadians, Chinese and Russians by 2030.
ooo pretty!Airbus A380's lumbering airshow acrobatics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en7QTZ5D ... r_embedded
Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20011742-264.html
Dr Karsten Benz, Lufthansa vice president sales and services Europe, said: “This is a very reliable aircraft that fulfils all our expectations and passengers are very happy.”
He said the A380 had already made such an impression that passengers were timing their journeys to coincide with its schedule.
“We have waiting lists for passengers who want to travel to Japan and now the bigger A380 gives us the opportunity to fly them there.
“This does not operate every day on the Tokyo route, but there are so many customers asking when the plane operates: ‘Is it the time I want, or the other way round, and if so I will change my timings’.”
Dr Benz explained that the routes flown by the A380 have been carefully selected.
“Tokyo is one of the strongest first- class markets in the world. Jo’burg is very strong for business and for economy in our winter period. Beijing, Tokyo and Jo’burg are the cream of destinations our network planners could make.”
He also revealed that the first A380 had entered service without the slightest problem: “Technically, it is operating at 100% – no problems in two months of operations.”