SAS Apparently Banned From RAF Pumas

Discuss all aspects of military aviation here!

Moderators: MikeD, Robert Hilton

rattler
Posts: 921
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:41 pm
Location: Med
Contact:

SAS Apparently Banned From RAF Pumas

Postby rattler » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:06 am

Ouch. Wonder what transport they will be using now?

Rattler

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6447105.ece
Gung-ho' SAS are banned from RAF helicopters


RAF pilots pushed Pumas to the limits to cope with demands made by SAS commanders, causing fatal crashes, says inquiry
Michael Smith. The SAS has been banned from traveling in the RAF’s Puma transport helicopters after an inquiry blamed their daredevil approach for two crashes and the deaths of four servicemen in Iraq.

RAF pilots frequently pushed their aircraft to the limits in an attempt to cope with demands made by SAS commanders.
They flew so close to the ground — even when the situation did not require it — that there would have been no time to make corrections had a fault occurred.

According to the inquiry, nobody in the RAF has felt confident enough to oppose the demands of the SAS men for high-risk manoeuvres.
The two Iraq crashes were among a total of eight between April 2000 and November 2007 involving the RAF’s Pumas, its oldest model of helicopter, introduced in 1971. A total of 10 servicemen were killed, with human error blamed in all cases. The aircraft was nearly twice as likely to crash as other service aircraft because of human error, the report said. It pointed to “a desire in some Puma crews to prove themselves in front of their peers”.

In Iraq, the inquiry found, the SAS’s demands and the pilots’ “appetite for risk-taking” meant “a safe line” was breached, “probably in the early part of 2006”.

The result was two crashes on special forces missions. In the first, in April 2007, two Pumas were lost, killing Mark Powell, an SAS colour sergeant, and Mark McLaren, a sergeant in the RAF. Another two SAS men died in the second crash in November 2007.
References to the SAS are blacked out in a copy of the report given to MPs but defence sources said these portions hid serious criticisms of special forces commanders.

“The RAF and army hierarchy has decided the Puma force is never going to be let out with the special forces again,” the sources said. It is now used for training in Britain and Kenya and ferrying embassy staff in Baghdad.

The habit of flying the Pumas close to their limits came to a head when pressure on the crews increased with the number of operations in Iraq. The Pumas’ engine has a flaw that leads its rotor blades to slow down if it is not flown with enough care. This can lead to pilots losing control.
Sincere condolences to all Norwegians! I guess you will need some aquevit to get over this.

David Hilditch
Posts: 1201
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:33 pm
Location: Washington DC

Re: SAS Apparently Banned From RAF Pumas

Postby David Hilditch » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:07 am

Ouch. Wonder what transport they will be using now?
Merlin ? The real issue, though, I think, is that the SAS may have been guilty of pushing expectations too high and that RAF crews should insist on flying their aircraft within their limitations.


Return to “Military Aviation Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests