B787 New Zealand/Australia Tour
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I'm jealous. Great pics
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I like how Boeing have made it much easier to control the aircraft for the uninitiated, one simple lever to make the plane go up, and I guess it is in the down position because it is already on the ground.
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With stabilizers (both horizontal and vertical), smaller and farther aft go hand in hand. With a longer arm you need a smaller surface.The horizontal stabilizer looks misplaced, smaller and farther aft than some.
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The last. It's a precision static pressure probe used for instrument calibration. I didn't expect seing it in this late stage of the developement and certification. The "for RVSM certification" theory is a good one, if the plane is not already certified for it (case in which it must be a pain in the ass for ANA to operate it in non-RVSM conditions)By trailing cone, do you mean the cone shaped assembly at the very end of the fuselage, or that weird plumb line hanging down from the rudder?
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LOL.... that really increases the "what's it doing?' factor!!!I like how Boeing have made it much easier to control the aircraft for the uninitiated, one simple lever to make the plane go up, and I guess it is in the down position because it is already on the ground.
LOL100% incorrect Ever hear of Ferry Permit? issued for Non airworthy aircraftno such thing as "barely airworthy" it's either Airworthy or Notyou still have to find a crew willing to fly this "barely airworthy" heap
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Yeah, it's interesting. When ATA was getting the L1011 certified RVSM the equipment was only on the aircraft for a few weeks. I'm guessing they are just leaving the equipment on the test aircraft.... why spend the time (time is money) to remove it?The last. It's a precision static pressure probe used for instrument calibration. I didn't expect seing it in this late stage of the developement and certification. The "for RVSM certification" theory is a good one, if the plane is not already certified for it (case in which it must be a pain in the ass for ANA to operate it in non-RVSM conditions)By trailing cone, do you mean the cone shaped assembly at the very end of the fuselage, or that weird plumb line hanging down from the rudder?
LOL100% incorrect Ever hear of Ferry Permit? issued for Non airworthy aircraftno such thing as "barely airworthy" it's either Airworthy or Notyou still have to find a crew willing to fly this "barely airworthy" heap
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Indeed. It's all about the volume coefficient. I actually did an quick trade study a while back between tail arm length and stabilizer surface sizes to find the configuration with minimum weight. The paper was mostly crap that I banged out in about 20 minutes but the concepts were there. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5850295/trade-study.pdfWith stabilizers (both horizontal and vertical), smaller and farther aft go hand in hand. With a longer arm you need a smaller surface.The horizontal stabilizer looks misplaced, smaller and farther aft than some.
I don't think ZA001 is ever going into service, so why remove it? That would cost money, and who knows if you might want to use it again someday?The last. It's a precision static pressure probe used for instrument calibration. I didn't expect seing it in this late stage of the developement and certification. The "for RVSM certification" theory is a good one, if the plane is not already certified for it (case in which it must be a pain in the ass for ANA to operate it in non-RVSM conditions)By trailing cone, do you mean the cone shaped assembly at the very end of the fuselage, or that weird plumb line hanging down from the rudder?
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otherwise known as the iPhone dockThe "Integrated Electronic Standby Instrument" is a "three-in-one" instrument combining attitude, airspeed and altitude indications on a single LCD display.
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Exhibit A: being the extra size of the stabilisers on the B-747SPIndeed. It's all about the volume coefficient. I actually did an quick trade study a while back between tail arm length and stabilizer surface sizes to find the configuration with minimum weight. The paper was mostly crap that I banged out in about 20 minutes but the concepts were there. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5850295/trade-study.pdfWith stabilizers (both horizontal and vertical), smaller and farther aft go hand in hand. With a longer arm you need a smaller surface.The horizontal stabilizer looks misplaced, smaller and farther aft than some.
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All the certification testing was completed as far as I know, including Reduced Vertical Separation Minimum. But I'm not on the Flight Test tip.Maybe the wing box engineer can give us some insight into why that thing is still hanging out.... could be for RVSM cert?
The flight test airplanes are still conducting non-certification testing for Boeing.
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ZA001, ZA002 and ZA003 will not be placed into service. Boeing will retain ownership.I don't think ZA001 is ever going into service, so why remove it? That would cost money, and who knows if you might want to use it again someday?
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Now feel very privileged to not only see but go aboard this aircraft as it has now been retired.
Now feel very privileged to not only see but go aboard this aircraft as it has now been retired.
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