F.A.O.: 3WE

[Not_Karl]

I saw some concerning uncommanded rudder reversals.

Isn't that usual on the 737?

[Gabriel]

I saw some concerning uncommanded rudder reversals.

Isn't that usual on the 737?

I didn't say unusual. I said concerning. But you may argue that anything and everything is concerning in a 737.

[Not_Karl]

Gabie feels offended by them.

But you may argue that anything and everything is concerning in a 737.

Indeed.

[Gabriel]

Gabie feels offended by them.

I would not say offended. Rather surprised and disappointed. Pilots should never disagree with physics. Especially not pilots that transport paying passengers.

[Not_Karl]

...with a very relevant message:

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I would not say offended.

I know, I should have used quotes.

[Not_Karl]

He doesn't only make retired and some current pilots mad, he also makes them almost incontinent.

[3WE]

He doesn't only make retired and some current pilots mad, he also makes them almost incontinent.

New members with which to stir poop.

Merry Christmas (and Festivus a couple days ago).

[Not_Karl]

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Merry Christmas (and Festivus a couple days ago).

Thank you, Merry Christmas to you too.

[3WE]

I made a somewhat botish reply regarding photography and jetpicturey.

[Not_italics on]We should place another botish reply that Max Lavs are too small, but that MCAS might be a bigger concern.

[Not_Karl]

I made a somewhat botish reply regarding photography and jetpicturey.

But Not_regarding Nairing

[Not_italics on]We should place another botish reply that Max Lavs are too small, but that MCAS might be a bigger concern.

Indeed.

[Not_Karl]

Ban ALL single-PT-6ed Caravans.

[3WE]

Ban ALL single-PT-6ed Caravans.

Ummm, can you explain (In maybe 5 sentences) just what the phugoid is going on over there?

I’m not reading all that Verbie-age.

So they perform a practice go around, the aeroplanie for an unknown reason slowly banks to 70 degrees and they crash.

Let me guess Evanie is pontificating on an extremely specific set of events, with a good dose of admonishmeto del pilotos del mas stupido y cowboyo improvisato?

The stupid pilot banked on purpose causing the PT-6 to stall the left wing which goes against procedure….

Umm yeah, stall or not, a 70 degree bank isn’t great after takeoff… I ass-ume the propellor spins the same direction, meaning “torque” could be contributing- but who cares about the EXACT sequence of events- most of us will crash if the plane cranks over to 70 degrees when low and slow, yes, you will not be stalled, unless you are mentally compromised, but you are still losing a lot of UPWARD lift relative to the ground.

[3WE]

I decided to nutritionally enhance the discussion, there, by spreading some manure.

I can’t believe that crash generated that much (and that type) of discussion.

[3WE]

Apparently it’s OK to make banks up to 30 degrees during initial initial climb out.

I don’t really see what’s wrong with that, Gabriel? If you are flying at healthy speeds and attitudes, your stall/etc buffers are pretty good.

Still, I remember being corrected for starting a gentle turn at 300 feet…so I thought there was some procedure involved?

[Not_Karl]

Apparently it’s OK to make banks up to 30 degrees during initial initial climb out.

But what if you're about to land an ATR?

Have we changed our mask-use procedures?

Not_Karlie would have liked to use face diapers for the rest of his Not_did-diedness(life) as he noticed a marked improvement on his respiratory allergies, but the concern and nervousness caused to storekeepers made him abandon them in november (criminals like to use face-diapers to hide their faces) .

Should we tell this jetphotographer the undeniable truth about chemtrails?

[3WE]

I made a somewhat botish reply regarding photography and jetpicturey.

The thread, there, aged very nicely, including assistance from the lover of Lufthansa 747-400s.

[monchavo]

...with a very relevant message:
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I would not say offended.

I know, I should have used quotes.

Is that Howard the Duck?

[Not_Karl]

Would you be kind enough to make a comprehensive list of things you learnt at a 4th grade playground? Apart from your fundamental disdain skills, of course.
We are also informed that you like to stir shit, are almost always more than a tad sarcastic, often instinctively mean, and one of your favorite routines is to slander and misrepresent the views of those with differing views. It would appear to the uninformed that you are Not_an aggie but a lawyer and/or a politician.

Also, you didn't scold the Spirit reviewer for writing about lav cleanliness but Not_size .

Is that Howard the Duck?

Yes.

[3WE]

Would you be kind enough to make a comprehensive list of things you learnt at a 4th grade playground? Apart from your fundamental disdain skills, of course.
We are also informed that you like to stir shit, are almost always more than a tad sarcastic, often instinctively mean, and one of your favorite routines is to slander and misrepresent the views of those with differing views. It would appear to the uninformed that you are Not_an aggie but a lawyer and/or a politician.

Was my explanation, there, not_clear?

Not_adequate?

Not_accurate?

I am not_a lawyer, nor politician, but a long term, ass-hat, industry-outsider, parlour-talking member of some good and not_good obscure aviation fora. I have also read aviation typists, off and on for many years and turned virtual final with lots of different virtual things in tow- maybe even a virtual ATR with a TWA livery.

[Not_Karl]

Was my explanation, there, not_clear?

Not_adequate?

Not_accurate?

no
You keep repeating that poor blue-in-the-face Evanie didn't ride a bike like it's a bad thing...

...a TWA livery.

You mean Teeny-Weeny Airlines?

[3WE]

You keep repeating that poor blue-in-the-face Evanie didn't ride a bike like it's a bad thing...

I have explained bicycle riding many times. Get out of the sterile bubble. Live life and learn about human factors and risks…even the real risk of Not_Kalie not_quite did dieding while exercising fundamental bicyclepersonship [see next post]

It gives you a different view of climbing on a CRJ operated by neked flyboy, a cheap composite death trap operated by flyboy, or a taildragger operated by ITS or Bobbieee. Or a light single operated by Ericie, Gabieee or 3WEee.

[3WE]

You never informed us if your bicycle crash involved the type and model that you were trained on. Switching between a Schwin Varsity 10 speed rams horn road bike to 21 speed mountain bike requires different training and procedures!

[elaw]

If you're of the male persuasion and want to learn about the risks of bicycling, you need one of these:

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[3WE]

[Banana bike]

1. Indeed.

2. Mine was blue, and only a -100 model with 3 speeds and back-pedal brakes.

3. In case the Argies don’t understand, this is used with plywood and concrete blocks to perform jumps, measured, heavy wheelie pull ups, 1-2 passengers and any number of additional, unapproved, dangerous, cowboy-improvised procedures.

Boeing and Schwinn executives should be fired immediately!

Gabiee/N’Karlie: Not_unlike carritos de rulemanes and doing pretend MCAS events on steep hills, is it?

PS: [Not_italics]We are reminded of the value of experience from a good training platform:

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Evanie never rode one of these, either.

[Not_Karl]

He may have Not_read your (nor Evanie's) post(s) and may also Not_be aware of the meaning of the blue font.

You never informed us if your bicycle crash involved the type and model that you were trained on. Switching between a Schwin Varsity 10 speed rams horn road bike to 21 speed mountain bike requires different training and procedures!

Well, I actually learnt the fundamentals on a women's bicycle and did nearly did died on a men's bicycle with a bigger frame, but both were mountain bikes with 26" wheels and 18 gears and V-Brakes-200 both by Shimano. I assume they were close enough in biking characteristics, with only slight control input adjustments required to compensate the differences in height, CoG and weight (no, neither had MCAS).
BUT... my NEAR TOTAL ROAD DISASTER!!!!!!! bike had a Chicago brand frame supposedly made in the United USAs (I doubt it, but it had a sticker with an American flag saying it), European (portuguese, I think?) rims -fortunately made from aluminium- and an Italian seat. So I blame both America and Europe.

If you're of the male persuasion and want to learn about the risks of bicycling, you need one of these:

An American vehicle with stick shift?!?!

3. In case the Argies don’t understand, this is used with plywood and concrete blocks to perform jumps, measured, heavy wheelie pull ups, 1-2 passengers and any number of additional, unapproved, dangerous, cowboy-improvised procedures.

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Gabiee/N’Karlie: Not_unlike carritos de rulemanes and doing pretend MCAS events on steep hills, is it?

Never saw anything like that (but we have "beach bikes" with that style of frame, of course). Here, in my era, every boy's dream was one of those ridiculously small BMX bikes with plastic rims.

Evanie never rode one of these, either.

Good for him, it looks like a cheap-composite-crackerbox...