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Ban all biz jets?

Postby 3WE » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:34 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-osu-ai ... 09212.html

Might be some interesting Swiss cheese and Evan admonishment.

And, while it’s premature, there’s some interesting comments, including that “the airport didn’t know where the plane was from.” Without getting literal, are they implying it was flying VFR?
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Re: Ban all biz jets?

Postby elaw » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:36 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-osu-ai ... 09212.html

Might be some interesting Swiss cheese and Evan admonishment.

And, while it’s premature, there’s some interesting comments, including that “the airport didn’t know where the plane was from.” Without getting literal, are they implying it was flying VFR?
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Discussion including a (brief) first-person account and links: https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comme ... rashed_on/
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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby 3WE » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:20 am

The passengers didn’t did died.
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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby elaw » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:24 pm

It seems we have video of the event: https://news.yahoo.com/dashcam-video-sh ... 37059.html
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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby 3WE » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:25 pm

I turned on Dan Juan.

He reviewed much.

My takeaway was and live ATC:

5 miles out, everything seemed fine. A minute later, “we’re landing on the interstate”.

Strange deal.
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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby Gabriel » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:36 pm

I turned on Dan Juan.

He reviewed much.

My takeaway was and live ATC:

5 miles out, everything seemed fine. A minute later, “we’re landing on the interstate”.

Strange deal.
And they did not run out of fuel.

In any case, until we know more, these pilots are provisionally heroes in my mind. They really did a great job of gliding the plane and slowing down to almost traffic speed (and it was heavy traffic) before landing on the highway. They saved the 3 paxs who were able to literally walk away, they only hit 1 vehicle (no or minor injuries only), and they paid with their lives (it seems that the cockpit hit the wall when the right wing touched the wall and sup the airplane while exploding).

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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby 3WE » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:31 pm

***they only hit 2 vehicles (and so far no one on the ground has did died.)***
Fixed.

My wild speculation is switching to an empty fuel tank, possibly dykleskicaly like the ATR dude.
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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby Gabriel » Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:18 am

***they only hit 2 vehicles (and so far no one on the ground has did died.)***
Fixed.
Why "so far"? Any severe injuries?

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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby 3WE » Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:55 pm

An unidentified person in one of the cars on I-75 was seriously injured, according to the FAA.
I concede that ‘serious’ is a broad term that does not necessarily equal life-threatening.
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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby Gabriel » Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:26 pm

An unidentified person in one of the cars on I-75 was seriously injured, according to the FAA.
I concede that ‘serious’ is a broad term that does not necessarily equal life-threatening.
That's still worse than what I thought. I thought there had been only minor injuries on the ground.

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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby 3WE » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:36 pm

***I thought there had been only minor injuries on the ground.***
The media sucks, more than a little. A day or two after the crash- these were common snippets:
“A car was hit, with the occupant only receiving minor injuries”. (Thanks, were OTHER car’s possibility hit too?- there was quite a bit of traffic in the pictures.)

“There were 5 people in the plane, their condition is unknown”.
Just today, I learned that they snagged a pickup truck and drug it along with them.

…and you’d think an update on the seriously injured person would be in order.

But hey, Taylor Swift’s boyfriend won some FOOTBALL game, and that’s what really matters, right?
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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby Gabriel » Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:22 am

But hey, Taylor Swift’s boyfriend won some FOOTBALL game, and that’s what really matters, right?
To most, yes

(and no, I am not going into the football vs handegg discussion)

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At the risk of being DK Edits…

Postby 3WE » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:35 am

1. Another FB group.

2. Lived in Fayetteville for 5 years. Pre XNA. Flew out of Drake a few times, and Chickendale twice. Lots of airports. Had an upper door pop open on a twin Cessna…I guess they forgot the bolts?

3. An excellent landing…is there an adjective for when paperwork and potential job losses are in play?


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Link/Virgin Australia Saab 340 at Canberra, Nov 10th 2022...

Postby Not_Karl » Wed May 15, 2024 4:19 am

...forgotten propeller strap dislodges from propeller and lodges in fuselage shortly after take-off, lightly injuring 3 passengers.
Straps were installed without high-visibility streamers nor extensions to airstairs, usual omissions for Link. Their management of straps and guidance on their usage were lacking. Several opportunities of noticing the error were wasted by both ground crew and pilots, both obviously consisting of stupid, fatigued cowmonkeys. I'd like Evanie's opinion of this event.
I'm looking forward to watch the online stream of the undoubtedly severe physical punishment and humiliation of everyone involved.

I like this comment on AvieHeraldie...
Prop
By Whoops on Thursday, May 18th 2023 05:44Z

Rule 1 when travelling on a turbo prop aircraft.
Don't sit in line with the propeller.

Rule 2
Travel on a jet
...as if turbinie blades/discs never had rapidly departed their enclosures and punctured an aeroplanie's fuselage (or wings, stabilizers, other engines, etc.) wounding/killing people or causing a TAD!!!... :roll: Of course this doesn't mean I'm opposed to banning ALL props; just that turbofans/jets should also be ALL banned.
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Re: Link/Virgin Australia Saab 340 at Canberra, Nov 10th 2022...

Postby elaw » Wed May 15, 2024 12:28 pm

Prop
Rule 2
Travel on a train
Fixed.
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Re: Link/Virgin Australia Saab 340 at Canberra, Nov 10th 2022...

Postby Not_Karl » Wed May 15, 2024 12:53 pm

Prop
Rule 2
Travel on a train
Fixed.
no
TRAINS DON'T BRAKE.
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Interesting Train Disasters

Postby 3WE » Fri May 17, 2024 12:50 pm

…trains…
Trains _________________________________ [Add your favorite verb & clarifying lingues]

Footnote: Commentary from foamers/gradepervs included

https://youtu.be/MHo-rdcu4ek?si=AQqqabv3ghGpKzjz
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Re: Interesting Train Disasters

Postby Not_Karl » Fri May 17, 2024 1:02 pm

Clearly trainie engineers are also wary of the Firefighters' Union Scab List...
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Re: Interesting (recent) total air disasters

Postby J » Fri May 17, 2024 1:12 pm

To get back on track, don't forget that GE, the manufacturer of that locomotive, also builds aircraft engines. GE later sold the company to Wabtec who continues to this day.


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