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Cheap composites

Postby 3WE » Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:51 pm

https://www.facebook.com/reel/121528732 ... tid=9imq16

And pilots who could not pass the most basic written exam, nor recite a checklist.
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Re: Cheap composites

Postby elaw » Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:48 am

:clap:

If you click the arrows beside the video there are some others... the last one shows some pretty amazing flying too.
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Re: Cheap composites

Postby 3WE » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:37 am

…or, I can just wait for the Reels algorithm to figure out I like this sort of stuff :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/234867695 ... tid=9imq16
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Mother Nature Isn’t Always Beautiful

Postby 3WE » Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:31 pm

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Re: Mother Nature Isn’t Always Beautiful

Postby elaw » Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:57 pm

It's hard to comment on that one without knowing how many PSI were going to the brakes. :mrgreen: Though I suspect some contaminated-runway procedures may have been violated: I saw little use of reverse thrust, though it does appear the spoilers deployed.

I'd also like to see an analysis from Gabe of the aerodynamics displayed in the 3rd video on that page.
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Re: Mother Nature Isn’t Always Beautiful

Postby Gabriel » Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:51 pm

I'd also like to see an analysis from Gabe of the aerodynamics displayed in the 3rd video on that page.
It doesn't work that way. The reel is based on what Facebook thinks you like.
"3rd video on that page" for me was how to make a necktie knot.
No idea why Facebook thinks I would be interested in that at all.

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Re: Cheap composites

Postby elaw » Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:55 pm

Well that stinks!

It was more or less this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAwcoFoAk_k with better music and better resolution.
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Re: Mother Nature Isn’t Always Beautiful

Postby 3WE » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:46 pm

No idea why [artificial intelligence algorithms] thinks I would be interested in that at all.
Maybe we aren't ready to let AI be "everything" to the aeroplanie...
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Re: Cheap composites

Postby elaw » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:51 pm

Personally I'm not ready to let AI do anything anywhere. Except perhaps create entertainment from all the people freaking out about it.

Not to say that I'm not freaked out about some aspects of it. I've heard noise about military drones (perhaps already in existence) that can autonomously choose and "act on" targets... I don't like that one bit.
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Re: Cheap composites

Postby Gabriel » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:11 pm

Personally I'm not ready to let AI do anything anywhere.
Not even write a piece of code for you?

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Re: Cheap composites

Postby elaw » Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:33 am

Not without me "looking over its shoulder" in a big way!
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Re: Cheap composites

Postby Gabriel » Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:19 am

Not without me "looking over its shoulder" in a big way!
Ok, I agree. You cannot let it alone.
But if you are a good "prompter" (that's the profession of the near future) you can get Chat GPT to do most of the heavy lifting with you having to review the output and maybe re-prompt, correct it yourself, or sometimes just finding that it is good as it is.

I've seen teachers asking Chat GPT "prepare 10 homework exercises for a high school AP Physics class on the subject of Newton's laws" and then refine the outcome with some more prompting and maybe do a few corrections at the end, and it took them 10 minutes instead of 1 hour.

(in fact the case that I saw was an English teacher but I don't feel qualified to remember and repeat here what he asked Chat GPT to do, but it was similar).

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Re: Cheap composites

Postby 3WE » Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:14 pm

Not without me "looking over its shoulder" in a big way!
Ok, I agree. You cannot let it alone.
But if you are a good "prompter" (that's the profession of the near future) you can get Chat GPT to do most of the heavy lifting with you having to review the output and maybe re-prompt, correct it yourself, or sometimes just finding that it is good as it is.

I've seen teachers asking Chat GPT "prepare 10 homework exercises for a high school AP Physics class on the subject of Newton's laws" and then refine the outcome with some more prompting and maybe do a few corrections at the end, and it took them 10 minutes instead of 1 hour.

(in fact the case that I saw was an English teacher but I don't feel qualified to remember and repeat here what he asked Chat GPT to do, but it was similar).
Major changes coming to education. There was a LOT of learning spent beating your head against the wall doing homework. Instead of a term paper, just go to Wiki, now. I saw where oral exams may be a new thing to see if the kid LEARNED anything. Maybe instead of a term paper, you have to give a PPT speech on the topic and answer questions on your feet. Chat GPTand Wiki may be involved, but you better scour over the crap and get it into your head.

I need to have some fun with you engineers, on "How to calibrate an agricultural sprary (or an Air Tractor, for that matter) and how to mix a tankload of glyphosate....I spent a semester trying to teach that to students at a directional college... (Hint, you have to be decent at high school algebra and manipulating units). I need some time to think about this for maximum fun, but be looking for something in off-topic. Please don't cheat and read ahead, (or check Wiki or Chat GPT).
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Re: Cheap composites

Postby Gabriel » Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:29 pm

I heard something a few days ago that left me thinking. I don't remember who said it:

"Chat GPT will not take your job. Someone who knows how to use Chat GPT well will"

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Re: Cheap composites

Postby ocelot » Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:31 pm

Personally I'm not ready to let AI do anything anywhere.
Not even write a piece of code for you?
Definitely not.

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Re: Cheap composites

Postby Gabriel » Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:07 pm

Well, I asked ChatGPT to write a program in BASIC to salute the world and it did it flawlessly.

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Re: Cheap composites

Postby J » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:22 pm

Titan Airways A321 flies with missing windows

Excerpt about the A321 NEO" with links to ax report and radar image of flight.

The United Kingdom’s Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) is currently probing an alarming incident that occurred on October 4, 2023 involving a Titan Airways Airbus A321neo, during which the aircraft climbed to a barometric altitude of 14,500 feet with three windows inexplicably missing and dislodged. The aircraft, G-OATW, is just 2.5 years old and previously saw service as a VIP aircraft used by the British Government.

In addition to the AAIB, the French Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil Aviation Safety (BEA) is also investigating. Categorizing it as a “serious incident”, the BEA revealed the aircraft reached an altitude of approximately 10,000 feet when the flight crew discerned an unusual and excessive amount of noise within the cabin. The BEA provided further insight into the situation, stating, “During the climb, at an altitude of approximately 10,000 feet, the crew observed an unusual level of cabin noise, prompting the aircraft to execute a turn back to London Stansted. It was subsequently determined that three windows were missing and dislodged, with additional damage to the left-hand stabilizer.”

https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/a321 ... g-windows/

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Re: Cheap composites

Postby elaw » Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:22 pm

"...an unusual level of cabin noise..."
...but no pressurization issues? :roll:
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Re: Cheap composites

Postby Gabriel » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:56 am

Titan Airways issued a statement regarding the incident, stating, “The crew became aware of increased noise in the cabin and an issue with one of the windows. The pilot did not declare an emergency and landed the aircraft safely, according to normal operating procedures. Emergency services at the airport were not activated. The 21 staff members on board, who were being repositioned for their next scheduled flight, were unaffected and disembarked from the aircraft in the usual manner. Following the landing, it was discovered that the outer panel of three windows was missing. The matter was immediately reported to the relevant authorities, and an investigation is now underway.”

I hate PR.
Good thing that it was just the "outer pane" that was missing.
What will the say when the "inner spar broke" Or when a "single digit number of engines failed"

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Re: Cheap composites

Postby elaw » Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:34 am

Well it does explain why there (apparently) were no pressurization issues.
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Re: Cheap composites

Postby Gabriel » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:38 am

Well it does explain why there (apparently) were no pressurization issues.
You sure?

Let's see. They heard an excessive and unusual cabin noise at 10,000 ft, and they continued to climb to 14,500 ft.
The cabin altitude warning triggers at 10,000 ft and the masks drop at 14,500 ft.
Somehow I suspect it's not just coincidence.

On the other hand, unpressurized airplanes never have pressurization issues, so maybe you are right.

And it could have also been 3 micro-meteorites.

We'll have to wait for the final report.
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A non issue.

Postby Not_Karl » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:50 am

What's the problem with losing 3we windows? Don't they have like a hundred more for redundancy?
Wait for the final report.
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Re: A non issue.

Postby Gabriel » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:54 am

What's the problem with losing 3we windows? Don't they have like a hundred more for redundancy?
That was a good one :D :D :D

Same as wings, right?

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Re: A non issue.

Postby elaw » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:30 pm

What's the problem with losing 3we windows? Don't they have like a hundred more for redundancy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJxwvZ5SE_c
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Re: A non issue.

Postby Not_Karl » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:32 am

Same as wings, right?
No. For incomprehensible reasons, most modern aeroplanies have a single back-up wing, so stupid pilots should land ASAP if one fails. Even worse, in an inexplicable omission, most aeroplanies don't have redundant vertical stabilizers.
What's the problem with losing 3we windows? Don't they have like a hundred more for redundancy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJxwvZ5SE_c
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