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Re: IA SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!!!

Postby Gabriel » Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:49 pm

Speaking of AI...
Real world case: I searched the interwebs for "is it "rise concerns" or "raise concerns". One of the first results was a page that quotes sentences where your phrase was used, and at the top of that page there is an AI takeaway which read like this:
'rise concerns' is a correct and usable phrase in written English. It is used to indicate that an issue or problem has arisen. For example, "The increase in unemployment numbers has caused some to rise concerns about the state of the economy."
So I used "to rise concerns" in a work email.

After that I took a closer look at the examples of real human sentences. There was exactly ONE example where it was used in that way. The rest were of the type "Uncertainty in the economy due to rate rise concerns" (where "rise" is part of the noun phrase "rate rise", not the verb "rise concerns")

So here you have 2 cases of Artificial Idiocy fail and Human Idiocy fail that poke enough holes in the Swiss Cheese to cause a total-email-disaster:
AI fail 1- When asking for 2 alternatives, Google presented results for the WRONG alternative before the results for the correct one.
AI fail 2- The AI of the first result gave a totally incorrect answer and fabricated an incorrect example, apparently based on: 1- Exactly one human mistake and 2- Other correct sentences that the AI did not understand and were NOT about what was being asked for.
Human fail 1: The human that wrote "to rise concerns" incorrectly, which was part of what confused the AI.
Human fail 2: Me, for lazy internet research, relying in the AI takeaway and checking just with 1 real example (the wrong one), and not looking for more search results.

So yeah, there you have. I don't want AI to say "Hey Dave, it seems you are going too slow and the AoA is increasing, you should pull up relentlessly" (based on what Colgan and AF and many other did in similar situations).

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Re: (More) IA image creation shenanigans

Postby elaw » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:05 pm

"Human fail 0" was you assuming anyone cares about proper word usage any more. :?

My pet-peeve-du-jour is use of the word "on". The word "on" when used in non-electrical context generally means "to be supported by". Your car drives on a road. A dinner plate is on the table because the table supports it and if it did not, the plate would be on the floor.

But nowadays you hear about people waiting on line... and I'm not talking about AOL. How exactly does that work? Are people crowd-surfing while waiting for Costco to open? And the latest is things happening on accident. WTF... how does an accident support something? :roll:

/rant

PS excepted from blame in the above rant is the song "Waiting on a friend" by the Rolling Stones which, though possibly grammatically incorrect, is a pretty good listen IMHO.
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Re: IA SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!!!

Postby Not_Karl » Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:10 pm

...first results...
Be grateful you didn't get a full page of sponsored results, a bazillion useless websites offering "solutions" for the problem you googled but actually only giving the most obvious and useless tips while trying to sell you a product, outright scams, etc.
Remember when Google didn't suck?

Now, returning to topic, (A)I present you with "A tall Argentinian man who doesn't fit on airplane seats". I think Gabie is lying, he obviously fits with a lot of legroom to spare:
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Judging by his expression he probably has just learned he's in a 737Max:
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Re: IA SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!!!

Postby Gabriel » Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:42 am

...first results...
Be grateful you didn't get a full page of sponsored results, a bazillion useless websites offering "solutions" for the problem you googled but actually only giving the most obvious and useless tips while trying to sell you a product, outright scams, etc.
Remember when Google didn't suck?

Now, returning to topic, (A)I present you with "A tall Argentinian man who doesn't fit on airplane seats". I think Gabie is lying, he obviously fits with a lot of legroom to spare:
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Judging by his expression he probably has just learned he's in a 737Max:
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Laugh all you want, but I feel very identified in all those images. Leaving aside the "look" of the individuals (I wish I looked like the 1st and 3rd ones, that might look like me 30 years ago, if I had been fit), I totally recognize the knees projecting forward and going up because the lower part of the legs are taller than the seat, as well as the headrest being transformed into a scapula pusher.

The thing that is missing is the folded tray pressing against the knees.

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AI'm Not_laughing AT you, AI'm laughing WITH you...

Postby Not_Karl » Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:36 am

Laugh all you want, but I feel very identified...
I'm 1,91m (~6.8 American Handeggs), and have vast, verifiable experience with spaces designed for people Not_taller than 1,75m (~2 baseball bats).... but Not_with aeroplanies as I value my life :D
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Re: AI'm Not_laughing AT you, AI'm laughing WITH you...

Postby Gabriel » Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:38 am

Laugh all you want, but I feel very identified...
I'm 1,91m (~6.8 American Handeggs), and have vast, verifiable experience with spaces designed for people Not_taller than 1,75m (~2 baseball bats).... but Not_with aeroplanies as I value my life :D
Ok you are very tall! Almost as tall as me (1.93m).

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Re: (More) IA image creation shenanigans

Postby 3WE » Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:45 am

What’s that in real units?
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Re: (More) IA image creation shenanigans

Postby elaw » Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:51 pm

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Re: (More) IA image creation shenanigans

Postby Not_Karl » Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:59 pm

What’s that in real units?
1,91m and 1,93m. You're welcome.
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"A man riding a Big Wheel tricycle inside a sterile bubble"

Postby Not_Karl » Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:44 am

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I approve the redundancy:
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These two bubbles don't look so sterile...
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Bubble Boy IA image creation shenanigans

Postby 3WE » Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:04 am

Beautiful!

However; It’s a boy in a sterile bubble not_riding a bi, tri, quadra, penta, etceteracycle, but instead, reading procedures in old FCOMS and trashing pilots and providing liberal advice to the aviation industry and face-diaper-questioning members of the public.
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Re: (More) IA image creation shenanigans

Postby Gabriel » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:34 am

Did you try carrito de rulemanes?

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Re: (More) IA image creation shenanigans

Postby Gabriel » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:38 am

Not what I had in mind...


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Carritos de rulemanes

Postby 3WE » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:08 pm

Colloquialisms strike again. That’s what a cart of ball bearings looks like to me.

However a makeshift cart constructed by children to speed down a hill…

https://youtu.be/8FvfEmhE_Fw?si=a6M8xV7ig-4fZJDi

(Search term “Little Rascals Fire Engine”)
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"A cheap-composite crackerbox"

Postby Not_Karl » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:06 am

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This one might be a Texan crackerbox.
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Not what I had in mind...
CONCUR.
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"A boy preaching the Holy FCOM inside a sterile bubble"

Postby Not_Karl » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:11 am

It’s a boy in a sterile bubble not_riding a bi, tri, quadra, penta, etceteracycle, but instead, reading procedures in old FCOMS and trashing pilots and providing liberal advice to the aviation industry and face-diaper-questioning members of the public.
Not_exactly what I had in mind, probably shoud try with something more descriptive.
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"A tall Argentinian man riding a billy cart"

Postby Not_Karl » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:22 am

Did you try carrito de rulemanes?
After reading Wikipedia's entry on Soapbox/Gravity racers, I thought "billy carts" to be close enough to carritos de rulemanes, but results were again Not_what we expected.
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This one's at least Argie:
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Colloquialisms

Postby 3WE » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:18 am

Cheap composite cracker box is not_an aeroplanie unless you are a member of an obscure aviation forum.

Billy cart is similar to Billy goat, I.E. a goat-powered cart, thus we see AI Gabiee on a slow cart.

I again suggest using “makeshift downhill racer” or our American equivalent: The Soapbox Derby, which is what happens when aeroengineers get involved in carritos de rulemanes.

A final colloquialism: While they are related and can overlap: Preaching is generally more of delivering a religious message, while Pontificating is more of an arrogant tone of superiority in delivering knowledge. Yes, their etymology is similar, but the AI went with “What preachers do”. (Arguably, pontificating is what el Papa, Un Mas grande Padre does :lol:, however the real Pope usually tries to be humble.)

PS: Did anyone appreciate the Boeing engineering on the Little Rascals YouTube?
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Re: Colloquialisms

Postby Not_Karl » Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:39 pm

A final colloquialism: While they are related and can overlap: Preaching is generally more of delivering a religious message, while Pontificating is more of an arrogant tone of superiority in delivering knowledge. Yes, their etymology is similar, but the AI went with “What preachers do”. (Arguably, pontificating is what el Papa, Un Mas grande Padre does :lol:, however the real Pope usually tries to be humble.)
Thanks for the explanations and clarifications. My choice of "preaching" was intentional* this time, hence "the Holy FCOM". I expected a boy inside a bubble, wearing a face-diaper, holding a book titled "The Holy FCOM" (or the closest AI can get to those words/acronym), and reading The Book of Revel... REGUlation while we pay utmost attention.

*(I actually did learneded the difference betwen "preaching" and "pontificating" from your explanation some time ago. Maybe I should ask AI for "an Aggie from St. Louis teaching tall Argentinian men the subtleties of El Idioma Inglés"? :D )
PS: Did anyone appreciate the Boeing engineering on the Little Rascals YouTube?
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Was it the shimmy dampener issue seen here at ~3:07?
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Re: Colloquialisms

Postby 3WE » Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:34 pm

Was it the shimmy dampener issue seen here at ~3:07?
Excellent. That and a few seconds before are short clips of 4? carritos de rulemanes highlighted in the full episode.

Of all the things to keep secret from the world?

Thank you for explaining your logic. I tend to agree with it, but do not hold my breath on draw-by-wire systems to do much right. Sometimes they trim the nose down relentlessly.
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Re: Colloquialisms

Postby 3WE » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:52 am

*…Maybe I should ask AI for "an Aggie from St. Louis teaching tall Argentinian men the subtleties of El Idioma Inglés"? :D )
While you are at it, don’t forget Dos Argentinos muschachos esplano el idioma Espanol del Puerto Rico verso otra Espanol-habla culteros por gringos del Vuelo Arriba, Estados Unindos: You take it easy Y Que pasa? :cry:
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Re: (More) IA image creation shenanigans

Postby 3WE » Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:33 pm

I read where Google had throttled its image creator to some degree.

When one requested Nazi soldiers, Google, wanting to be a diverse and inclusive force, would supposedly spit out soldiers of a range of skin colors and features.

I can’t say if really tall Argentinians or fans of Cajeros Automaticos hand egg were represented.

Can’t make this stuff up.
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Evanie, as imagined by B(oe)ING Copilot-236AI

Postby Not_Karl » Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:44 am

ATLCrewBoyie2548m:
The type of person who at least occasionally stands in front of a mirror, listens to his own fiery speeches, and finds himself in bewildered awe and immense gratitude of and for his own existence and awesomeness.
(Bingie created four images, but one of them is broken :( )
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This one's my favourite:
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Threeweeie:
The type of person who at least occasionally stands in front of a mirror, in his sterile, bicycle-less bubble and listens to his own fiery speeches, and finds himself in bewildered awe and immense gratitude of and for his own existence and awesomeness.
AIPhoto rejected. Reason: NOT_bicycle-less:
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Also Not_bicycle-less:
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I also like this one:
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Evanie, as imagined by B(oe)ING Copilot-236AI

Postby 3WE » Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:58 pm

These are most entertaining, and I know you work very hard to get them correct.

I do miss the bubble and the Holy FCOM.

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Re: (More) IA image creation shenanigans

Postby elaw » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:19 pm

You all might want to sit down for this, as it's going to be shocking...

...it turns out images generated by AI can sometimes contain inaccuracies! https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/28/google- ... D=ref_fark

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