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Gabriel
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Raw radio navigation

Postby Gabriel » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:43 pm

Flyboy, is it possible in modern planes with FMS or the like (Garmin G1000 in GA airplanes) to just tune a VOR, ADF or ILS frequency without needing to go to an airport or waypoint page and select from there? I mean just input a frequency punching the numbers directly or rotating some knob, old style.

When I was in Arg last month I was playing MSFS with my brother and nephew and I couldn't do it. If I wanted to fly a full IFR approach I could not just select the airport's VOR on NAV2 and the ILS in NAV1, I had to go to the airport page, select what procedure I wanted to follow (which was a problem since I didn't have the charts), and let the system select the radios by itself, and then for the outbound leg it selected GPS waypoints (magenta line), only when capturing the ILS it transitioned automatically to NAV1 (green HSI). It really bothered me not having a NAV1 box where I could just input 121.5 and that's it.

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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby flyboy2548m » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:32 am

Well, I don't know about the G1000, but for us it's certainly possible. Pretty easy, in fact.
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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby elaw » Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:20 pm

What plane were you flying?
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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby Gabriel » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:51 pm

What plane were you flying?
TBM, 747-8.

With the C-152 I had no issues though :)

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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby elaw » Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:32 pm

I've flown the TBM a little and it's a little awkward but you definitely can manually tune the radios on that one. Here someone explains it 10 times better than I could: https://youtu.be/XQI157LMdyE
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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby Gabriel » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:23 am

That's useful, thank you!

I was frustrated because I could only tune the COM nd XPNDR in the NAV/COM page, I didn't think of hitting the "radios" button in the COM panel to access the NAV part.

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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby elaw » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:42 am

Yeah, I find the radio setup in that plane to be rather unintuitive. Then again, I consider the radios shown here to be intuitive, which apparently makes me a dinosaur:
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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby elaw » Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:15 am

Oh and for the 747... https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/582364-747-radios/ (2nd to last post)
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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby Gabriel » Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:17 am

Oh and for the 747... https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/582364-747-radios/ (2nd to last post)
thank you. I'll try these tricks the next time I go to Argentina.

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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby 3WE » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:40 pm

TBM, 747-8.
Holy type-specific model…

Not JUST the Socata TBM-700

But the TBM-747…

…dash 8

1. /Blue font
2. NOT_to be confused with the Boeing 747-800
3. Turboprop singles are cool, but cue the 1 vs. 2?engine safety trade off and cost discussion.
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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby elaw » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:46 pm

It's the little-known version of the -700 that can carry 410 people. Not bought by many customers because it has climb performance issues when fully loaded. :mrgreen:
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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby 3WE » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:15 am

It's the little-known version of the -700 that can carry 410 people. Not bought by many customers because it has climb performance issues when fully loaded. :mrgreen:
Noted. :lol:
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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby ocelot » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:36 am

Does the FMS support carrier autoland? What about torpedo release?

(while we're talking about confusing type names)

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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby elaw » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:35 pm

I'm going to stop joking about how many people you can cram onto an airplane now: https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/0 ... ot-vpx.cnn

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Re: Raw radio navigation

Postby Gabriel » Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:07 pm

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