This flew over my house.

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This flew over my house.

Postby 3WE » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:44 am

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AJI9 ... /KSUS/KDPA

I ass-ume a DC-9

It was dark and I didn’t know it was coming and didn’t see anything :evil:

It was a bit loud.

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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby elaw » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:18 pm

Sweet!

Looks like it's this plane: https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N784TW

Described there as a "1967 MCDONNELL DOUGLAS DC-9-15F", but "airworthiness date" is in 1977 so not sure what's up with that. Either way, it's quite the old aeroplanie so it certainly will be crashing any minute now.

Also interesting to note the "engine type" is listed as "turbo-jet" - apparently its bypass ratio isn't enough to rate being called a "turbo-fan"? I thought technically an engine with any bypass (except maybe bleeds) was considered a turbofan.

Question: does anyone know if that model (and its derivatives) having one more row of seats on one side of the centerline than the other had any effect on its design? I know the extra row of seats is pretty close to the centerline, but it's not *on* the centerline, so I wonder if the offset weight made it always want to bank to the right...
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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby 3WE » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:12 pm

Question: does anyone know if that model (and its derivatives) having one more row of seats on one side of the centerline than the other had any effect on its design? I know the extra row of seats is pretty close to the centerline, but it's not *on* the centerline, so I wonder if the offset weight made it always want to bank to the right...
A few years ago, I got on a Delta plane (think it was an MD-90 with the turboFANS) and the 2-3 seating was REVERSED.

It would be funny to know if there was major aero-engineer debate on this ‘radical’ design change.

And don’t forget a number of ERJs and turboprops wit 1-2 seating. It’s my understanding that this unbalanced loading is trivial compared to aileron/trim authority. The control surfaces do have a big leverage advantage.
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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby Not_Karl » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:55 pm

A few years ago, I got on a Delta plane (think it was an MD-90 with the turboFANS) and the 2-3 seating was REVERSED.

It would be funny to know if there was a total air disaster related to this ‘radical’ design change.
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Imagine a monkeypilot accidentally applying corrective measures for the weight distribution of a DC-9-15-200 while piloting an MD-90-236A... :shock:
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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby 3WE » Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:42 pm

Imagine a monkeypilot accidentally applying corrective measures for the weight distribution of a DC-9-15-200 while piloting an MD-90-236A... :shock:
As Evanie says, we must know our type-specific procedures, AND we need oversight, screening, regulations and fired executives.

For your comfort; however, most DC-9s have been grounded and scrapped.
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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby flyboy2548m » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:36 pm

I see that airplane at Mid-Continent International fairly regularly.
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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby 3WE » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:10 pm

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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby elaw » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:37 pm

Not a jetphoto but perhaps of interest:
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I was working out in the yard and heard an unusually loud jet flying past the house. Looked up and was a tad surprised to see *3* jets going by! They were too far away for me to see them really well but it appeared to be an airliner-type craft plus two fighters, flying in a triangle formation with the small planes trailing. It's interesting to note that on FR24 only one plane appears.
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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby 3WE » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:00 pm

That’s a rather dull livery.
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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby elaw » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:39 pm

And it gets curiouser... https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/ ... 1-weekend/

I'm about 95% sure that's what I saw.
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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby 3WE » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:28 pm

Interesting conundrum...

It's 9/11/2001 + 20 years and one day, so you MIGHT have fighters escorting a commercial plane that has been taken over by terrorists...

OR is it just a flyover for the football game?

Perhaps, we should have left the tanker out of this...It's not THAT exciting nor LOUD. Would people have been more relaxed with three fighters in-formation?

I ass-ume there were notification efforts, but so many people don't get the message any more.

The University of Flyover is near some air force base and they often manage to bet a B-2 flyover...very cool to see. Also, it's a smaller city surrounded by lots of rural areas, AND it's not really a prime target.

Maybe we should limit it to blimps?

One night a KC-135 was practicing ILS approaches at flyover International (why there and not their base at Scott AFB?, not sure). People were complaining about the noise. I think it was night and maybe even decent IMC for folks weren't seeing the aeroplanie- not exactly the same as in Bahstan, but these military guys. Also, folks occasionally complain about F15/18 traffic- for some reason Flyover Corporate has landed a lucrative fuel contract instead of Flyover International.
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Re: This flew over my house.

Postby 3WE » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:15 pm

Back to the OP: You can’t put anything over on them, when a livery is involved.

I might invest 10 min of time to track this awesome 1960s relic.

https://forums.jetphotos.com/forum/gene ... new-livery
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