Calling 3WE.....

[Dummy Pilot]

See if you can spot the irregularity on this Air Uganda takeoff.

(would you have broken your finger trying to repeatedly push the Flight Attendant call button?)

Youtubez Video

[Sir Gallivant]

Flaps? We don't need no stinking flaps for taxi!

[Gabriel]

Miss Douglas: "[beeeep beeeep] Flaps - [beeeep beeeep] Flaps - [beeeep beeeep] Flaps"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cnoAjFfkb0
0:19 - 0:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0AK4yxBGnM

[3WE]

In my experience, flaps are set "basically immediately" as the plane begins to move forward after pushback.

Based on the information in the video, I would say that things look awfully normal, other than the tug having pushed them all the way to takeoff position.

By the way, great find!

[flyboy2548m]

See if you can spot the irregularity on this Air Uganda takeoff.

(would you have broken your finger trying to repeatedly push the Flight Attendant call button?)

Youtubez Video

My guess would be that the words "Takeoff warning-Checked" were never spoken during taxi.

[Ancient Mariner]

Miss Douglas: "[beeeep beeeep] Flaps - [beeeep beeeep] Flaps - [beeeep beeeep] Flaps"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cnoAjFfkb0
0:19 - 0:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0AK4yxBGnM

Bloody hell, pilots do not think themselves at ALL! Someone tells them what to do all the time, I really did not know that.
Per

[Gabriel]

Bloody hell, pilots do not think themselves at ALL! Someone tells them what to do all the time, I really did not know that.
Per

Someone tells them? Worse. A WOMAN tells them!

[Ancient Mariner]

See if you can spot the irregularity on this Air Uganda takeoff.

(would you have broken your finger trying to repeatedly push the Flight Attendant call button?)

Youtubez Video

I would have broken the Flight Attendant.........................'s head on the cockpit door. I would off course have used a male one, or the least good looking one.
Per

[Ancient Mariner]

Bloody hell, pilots do not think themselves at ALL! Someone tells them what to do all the time, I really did not know that.
Per

Someone tells them? Worse. A WOMAN tells them!

Yeah, heard that. Good looking, but still. Did not want to rub it in by mentioning it, but I se you have no such scruples.
Per

[Verbal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0AK4yxBGnM

She's kind of hot.

[3WE]

Since watching Ice Pilots NWT some, There have been some shots of the flaps on the Douglas C-47's.

They sure do look similar...

[Gabriel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0AK4yxBGnM

She's kind of hot.

She definitively is, in the first 8 seconds of the other video.

[Gabriel]

...the flaps on the Douglas C-47's.

They sure do look similar...

To?

[3WE]

@#%@#%#%@#^@$@$%^@$%^#&@$%&#$%&@#$%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C-46 flaps look similar.....

Missed it by 1.....

[3WE]

(would you have broken your finger trying to repeatedly push the Flight Attendant call button?)

What would you have done?...

Same question to Flyboy.

[Not_Karl]

I would have rushed to the cockpit screaming unintelligible words with my strange accent.

[Gabriel]

@#%@#%#%@#^@$@$%^@$%^#&@$%&#$%&@#$%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C-46 flaps look similar.....

Missed it by 1.....

But then it was a Curtis, not Douglas.

[reubee]

(would you have broken your finger trying to repeatedly push the Flight Attendant call button?)

What would you have done?...

Same question to Flyboy.

... I believe this is the last time DummyPilot rushed his pre-takeoff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGeKdNxH4U

[flyboy2548m]

(would you have broken your finger trying to repeatedly push the Flight Attendant call button?)

What would you have done?...

Same question to Flyboy.

Stayed the bleep away from anything with the words "Air Uganda" on it. Hope that helps.

[Gabriel]

(would you have broken your finger trying to repeatedly push the Flight Attendant call button?)

What would you have done?...

Same question to Flyboy.

Stayed the bleep away from anything with the words "Air Uganda" on it. Hope that helps.

Okey, that's the smart move, of course.
But just for the sake of the "what if", what if you found yourself in that situation as a passenger, regardless of the airline?
Remember that this has happened twice in the MD-80 and they were not third world airlines. Spanair in Barajas. Was it Northwest out of Detroit? A couple of accidents with american carriers in the 727. There was also the LAPA's 737 case out of Buenos Aires, but with LAPA your first advise would apply.

To be honest, I know what I would want to do but I don't know if I would dare to.

[3WE]

... I believe this is the last time DummyPilot rushed his pre-takeoff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGeKdNxH4U

???

You lose traction from the nose wheel and temporarily have F'd up steering ability and you make a lurch towards the grass in a zillion dollar plane full of people.

You work in a the epitome of "safety first" culture...

Do you abort the takeoff, and evaluate what just happened...HELL NO- power up, let's go!

There's no memory checlist item, the black and white thinking says go...never mind if somethings afoot with the steering and at 50 kts it makes another hard left and sends you accross the grass and bumpy turn offs...

no hay problemo!

[PurduePilot]

... I believe this is the last time DummyPilot rushed his pre-takeoff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGeKdNxH4U

???

You lose traction from the nose wheel and temporarily have F'd up steering ability and you make a lurch towards the grass in a zillion dollar plane full of people.

You work in a the epitome of "safety first" culture...

Do you abort the takeoff, and evaluate what just happened...HELL NO- power up, let's go!

There's no memory checlist item, the black and white thinking says go...never mind if somethings afoot with the steering and at 50 kts it makes another hard left and sends you accross the grass and bumpy turn offs...

no hay problemo!

If it was skidding at 20 it wouldn't skid at 50?

[GlennAB1]

Of course, after you straighten it out, if you have a normal thump thump thump from the nose tires, you keep going!!!

[3WE]

If it was skidding at 20 it wouldn't skid at 50?

Dude, that's a huge oversimplification. There are a large number of different, and highly interactive factors that come into play as to when you would and would not skid and would or would not be guided off the runway.

Let's just hope Gabriel doesn't notice and elaborate...

[PurduePilot]

If it was skidding at 20 it wouldn't skid at 50?

Dude, that's a huge oversimplification. There are a large number of different, and highly interactive factors that come into play as to when you would and would not skid and would or would not be guided off the runway.

Let's just hope Gabriel doesn't notice and elaborate...

After so many years on this crappy forum, can't you tell when you're being trolled?