This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
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This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
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Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
The transcript of the cockpit voice recorder is included at the end of the report. Here is the last 35 seconds:
FO Two hundred and fifty, we're about to pass over Page VOR
FO You know where that is?
CPT Yeah
FO All right
CPT About a hundred and eighty degrees to Texarkana
FO About a hundred and fifty two
FO Minimum on route altitude here is forty four hund...
Sound of impact.
FO Two hundred and fifty, we're about to pass over Page VOR
FO You know where that is?
CPT Yeah
FO All right
CPT About a hundred and eighty degrees to Texarkana
FO About a hundred and fifty two
FO Minimum on route altitude here is forty four hund...
Sound of impact.
Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
The word "about" when used in relation to navigation of motorized vehicles is often not a good thing.
HR consultant, Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc.
Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
But, they were VFR, in VMC /blue font.The transcript of the cockpit voice recorder is included at the end of the report. Here is the last 35 seconds:
FO Two hundred and fifty, we're about to pass over Page VOR
FO You know where that is?
CPT Yeah
FO All right
CPT About a hundred and eighty degrees to Texarkana
FO About a hundred and fifty two
FO Minimum on route altitude here is forty four hund...
Sound of impact.
Commercial Pilot, Vandelay Industries, Inc., Plant Nutrient Division.
Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
Well... if you're gonna do VFR into IMC, why not go for broke and do it at night?
https://youtu.be/xqijLWONVbg?t=30
Sarcasm aside, it seems cowboy improvisation was a lot more acceptable 50-ish years ago. Though clearly not in this case.
https://youtu.be/xqijLWONVbg?t=30
Sarcasm aside, it seems cowboy improvisation was a lot more acceptable 50-ish years ago. Though clearly not in this case.
HR consultant, Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc.
Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
It is like fate waited to kill them until they realized of their stupidity of flying at 2000 ft.FO Minimum on route altitude here is forty four hund...
Sound of impact.
Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
Not really. The problem is that about 180 is not about 150.The word "about" when used in relation to navigation of motorized vehicles is often not a good thing.
Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
If we were Evan, we might argue that the only cause was unhealthy CRM. The FO sounded a bit snippy and unhappy with the procedures and Captain didn’t want to hear it.
3BS is troubled by 2000 ft MSL in the extended Ouachita mountains.
3BS is troubled by 2000 ft MSL in the extended Ouachita mountains.
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Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
Why are "we" digging up nearly fifty-year-old crashes? Who gives a phugoid foque?
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Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
I found this one interesting. Gross deviations from good practices.Why are "we" digging up nearly fifty-year-old crashes? Who gives a phugoid foque?
Also of note is that the wreckage was largely left in place on this one and is still there.
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Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
Are you planning to visit it?Also of note is that the wreckage was largely left in place on this one and is still there.
Re: This one does have a good bit of cowboy improvisation…
Not really, but it is intriguing.Are you planning to visit it?Also of note is that the wreckage was largely left in place on this one and is still there.
Commercial Pilot, Vandelay Industries, Inc., Plant Nutrient Division.
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