Gravity wins again...

[elaw]

One pilot and a bunch of cars dead in this one...

https://youtu.be/kF8JPkeD0Ws
https://twitter.com/KDRV/status/1467684 ... lls-one%2F
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/video/plane ... ml?src=rss

"Sources say" the plane had just taken off, but groundspeed looks to be near zero?

[3WE]

Kinda straight down diveish… Perhaps deliberate? Sadder if not.

[Gabriel]

In the comments of the youtube video there was some speculation that, since the plane was taking of into the fog, it could be a case of somatogravic illusion where pilots perceive acceleration as pitching up and pitch down to compensate, finding themselves emerging from the fog in a dive and crashing. This can happen so quickly that some crashed into the runway they were taking off from.

That is a possible explanation. However I have my doubts. First of all the angle is too steep, almost vertical.
Second, in the other video (tweeter), watching frame by frame, it seems that the plane is inverted and describing an inverted "pitch up" arc (which is down, not up), as if the pilot had rolled inverted and then pulled back. This can also be the result of losing control in IMC. It also seems that the pilot is pulling back really hard, if you compare the curved trajectory with the line of the fuselage it seems to be at a high angle of attack, and rotating fast.

A 3rd possibility, which is actually the one I am leaning for, is that by the time the airplane shows up in frame in either video it had already suffered a structural break up (possibly loosing the horizontal stabilizer which is typically the first part to fail when a pilot pulls up hardly) so what we see in the video is just the plane falling out of control (perhaps not inverted and pitching down uncontrollably after losing the stabilizer that was holding the nose up) and is not a continuation of the maneuver that started it all up there. The tweeter video (see still of superimposed frames in link below) almost looks like a tween that lost its tail and the portions of the wing outside of the engines.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13nQa2Z ... XPQ0x/view

EDIT:
https://twitter.com/ian_Rager/status/14 ... 99/photo/1

Ok, so my new speculation, combined with the 3rd scenario above, is that it was a tween that had a right engine failure, attempted to return but entered that right spiral, ovestressed it and then scenario 3 above.

[Gabriel]

Well, it seems a simpler LOC in IMC...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOYlxpsKuzA

[3WE]

Well, it seems a simpler LOC in IMC...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOYlxpsKuzA

Are we going to trust someone with a flight simulator, or can we break into jokes about swapping out models of aircraft?

[Gabriel]

Are we going to trust someone with a flight simulator, or can we break into jokes about swapping out models of aircraft?

Yes

[ocelot]

I don't see what the point of the simulator part of the simulator video is. Of course you can crash by intentionally causing an upset and then not even trying to pull out.

Anyway, if you take stills from the first video it also looks like the wings and tail have come off, so I'm going for in-flight breakup. Assuming that the ATC audio with the simulator video is real, the fact that the pilot apparently didn't know how to read a SID does kind of suggest lack of IFR currency.