This is why we need circular runways

[elaw]

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/ne ... 55411.html

[3WE]

Obligatory Replies:
Sorry to steal Not_Karl’s reply.

Official AD: No, the solution is treadmills

Not_Karl: Ban runways, all aviation and maybe everything.

Evanie: Not_Western aviation is on my no-fly list.

3BS, the amateur statistician: Extremely unlikely, that was random, I blame squid mind control nanoprobes and GMO cornflakes.

There: Time to close the thread. Fortunately, Monchie is much cooler.

[Gabriel]

Two planes. Same airport. Same runway. Same day. Same airplane type. Same problem (gear collapse and veering off runway).
What are the odds of these 2 events happening independently?
Sounds bad for ETOPS which relies in 2 engines NOT_failing independently.

https://avherald.com/h?article=511c07f6&opt=0
https://avherald.com/h?article=511c0a87&opt=0

(Different airlines and phases of flight though, one was during take-off, the other during landing.)

[elaw]

Two planes. Same airport. Same runway. Same day. Same airplane type. Same problem (gear collapse and veering off runway).
What are the odds of these 2 events happening independently?
Sounds bad for ETOPS which relies in 2 engines NOT_failing independently.

https://avherald.com/h?article=511c07f6&opt=0
https://avherald.com/h?article=511c0a87&opt=0

(Different airlines and phases of flight though, one was during take-off, the other during landing.)

What was that incident where an a/c almost crashed due to loss of power, because a worker mistakenly put way too much of a mold-killing additive into the fuel tanks?

[Gabriel]

Two planes. Same airport. Same runway. Same day. Same airplane type. Same problem (gear collapse and veering off runway).
What are the odds of these 2 events happening independently?
Sounds bad for ETOPS which relies in 2 engines NOT_failing independently.

https://avherald.com/h?article=511c07f6&opt=0
https://avherald.com/h?article=511c0a87&opt=0

(Different airlines and phases of flight though, one was during take-off, the other during landing.)

What was that incident where an a/c almost crashed due to loss of power, because a worker mistakenly put way too much of a mold-killing additive into the fuel tanks?

There were several instances of multiple engines (including jet engines) failing for the same or related reason: Fuel contamination, fuel exhaustion, volcanic hashes, one engine fails and the crew shuts down the wrong one, and more.

I've never heard of a single incident or accident of 2 jet (or turbofan) engines independently failing in the same flight.

[3WE]

What are the odds of these 2 events happening independently?

These events are not necessarily independent. They are both linked to aircraft attempting a takeoffs. A very powerful contributing factor.

We cannot rule out a potential micro-meteor collision for one or both of these.

We should wait for the final reports.

[Gabriel]

What are the odds of these 2 events happening independently?

These events are not necessarily independent. They are both linked to aircraft attempting a takeoffs.[/quote

No.

Gabe: Different airlines and phases of flight though, one was during take-off, the other during landing

We cannot rule out a potential micro-meteor collision for both of these.

One micro-meteor hitting both? That would not be independent but what are the odds? (answer: smaller than the odds one micro-meteor hitting one plane)
One micro-meteor hitting each? That would still be independent.

[Not_Karl]

One micro-meteor hitting both? That would not be independent but what are the odds? (answer: smaller than the odds one micro-meteor hitting one plane)
One micro-meteor hitting each? That would still be independent.

What if the two micro-meteorites were fragments from the same meteor, disintegrated by our atmosphere?

Two planes. Same airport. Same runway. Same day. Same airplane type. Same problem (gear collapse and veering off runway).

Lots of things to ban.

Sorry to steal Not_Karl’s reply.

No problemo.

Official AD: No, the solution is treadmills

What about circular treadmills?

Not_Karl: Ban runways, all aviation and maybe everything.

INDEED.

Evanie: Not_Western aviation is on my no-fly list.

I would Not_discard a confusion between the gear automation modes of the EMB-120-200 vs. the EMB-120-236A.

3BS, the amateur statistician: Extremely unlikely, that was random, I blame squid mind control nanoprobes and GMO cornflakes.

CONCUR.

There: Time to close the thread.

And remind us that there is a photography, Not_an aeroplanie forum.

We should wait for the final reports.

CONCUR.

[elaw]

What about circular treadmills?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b5SHawxrpic

[3WE]

Sorry to steal Not_Karl’s reply.

No problemo.

According to my Puerto Rican friend:

No hay problemo

Whoo iso correctamundo?

Sum, es est
Summo estes sunt

https://youtu.be/MljpuGu3yok?si=18kjV2yVYxKwr8Zs&t=121

[ocelot]

Sum, es est
Sumus estis sunt

Emendatum.

[ocelot]

(Different airlines and phases of flight though, one was during take-off, the other during landing.)

Also, different broken stuff.

[Not_Karl]

Whoo iso correctamundo?

Neither. Correct phrase is "no hay problema".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX_hf-KBIkk

[3WE]

Sum, es est
Sumus estis sunt

Emendatum.

grātiās tibi agō

Did I ever say that I hated Latin and that languages (all of them, incliding Ingles) are not my forte?

A wise person:

Latin is a dead language,
as dead as it can be.

First it killed the Romans,
and now it's killing me.

[3WE]

Whoo iso correctamundo?

Neither. Correct phrase is "no hay problema".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX_hf-KBIkk

Seeo posto arribo. Gracias por el video instructo de Alfo.

[3WE]

(Different airlines and phases of flight though, one was during take-off, the other during landing.)

Also, different broken stuff.

Ok techies: I think [not_italilcs]we understand independent events, like [not_italilcs]we undestand a limited need to wait for the final report.

But in your quest for mathematogical correctness, you are missing common, strongly linked contributing factors such as placing pilots in cockpits, executing takeoffs, fuel in tanks, putting humans on Earth, allowing people out of bubbles to operate bicycles and experiencing the risky fun of high-speed travel, meteors and non-Western Aviation Safety cultures.. Ban those things and it will likely make a big difference in these and most other crashes.

[Gabriel]

Whoo iso correctamundo?

Neither. Correct phrase is "no hay problema".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX_hf-KBIkk

Right, problema is a girl. Or a girl is problema? Ok something like that.

[Not_Karl]

Did I ever say that I hated Latin and that languages (all of them, incliding Ingles) are not my forte?

A wise person:

Ban ALL languages.

Fixed.

[ocelot]

meteors

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap191010.html

[Gabriel]

meteors

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap191010.html

Is there an Oscar for photos? That one deserves it!

[Not_Karl]

meteors

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap191010.html

Is there an Oscar for photos? That one deserves it!

Are you joking? There are at least 99 trillion reasons for it to be rejected there.

[3WE]

[meteor winglet photo]

[Like]

there.

There?

Jet pictures: Indeed.
Meteor pictures: Star and Airplane clutter
Star pictures: Meteor and Airplane clutter
3BS 1/3-2/3 composure: Yep, it’s not there
Manipulation: Probably so.

Finally- a favorite question: What’s the difference between a lucky snapshot and a good photograph?

[ocelot]

Is there an Oscar for photos? That one deserves it!

Being carried on APOD can be considered an award...