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A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby PurduePilot » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:53 am

Jumbo Air France jet clips Comair CRJ700

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(CNN) -- An Air Frane Airbus 380 clipped a smaller plane while taxiing to the runway for takeoff from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport, according to CNN's Jim Bittermann, who was on the Air France flight headed to Paris.

Bittermann said that he felt a slight rumble -- akin to hitting a patch of rough pavement-- as his plane was moving on the ground Monday at about 8:15 p.m. The pilot then stopped the aircraft, which is regarded as the world's biggest passenger jet, and eventually fire department crews surrounded it and the other plane.

The tail of Comair flight 6293, a Delta Connection flight that had recently arrived from Boston, was struck by the Air France aircraft while waiting to park at the New York airport, said Delta spokeswoman Betsy Talton.

Looking out the window, Bittermann could see that the last foot or so of the Airbus 380's left wing had been damaged. The other plane also suffered some damage.

"You could see the part of the 380's wing hanging down from the horizontal stabilizer of the Delta jet," he said, having seen the damage firsthand from a seat on the larger plane's left side.

There were no injuries, said a spokeswoman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, who declined to give her name.

The Federal Aviation Administration has been notified about the incident, and Port Authority police detectives were interviewing the pilots of both aircraft, the Port Authority spokeswoman said.

Those on the Comair flight were later able to get off the plane normally, according to Talton.

The Air France flight 007 originally had been scheduled to take off at 7:15 p.m. for Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris, according to that airline's website. But, after the incident, it turned around and all its passengers deplaned and picked up their baggage at the New York airport.

Bittermann described passengers' mood aboard that flight as relatively light-hearted and calm, after the pilot alerted them of what happened.

"People started making jokes," he said, while waiting to pick up his bags in New York. "But I think the jokes will stop when they start finding out that they may be stuck here for a while."
Of course the two questions on everybody's mind are whether it was Flyboy at fault, and whether it is economically feasible for Air Frane to repair the wing.

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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby B77W-QOTS » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:40 am

It cant be flyboy they wouldnt him anywhere near a CRJ700.
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby flyboy2548m » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:58 am

It cant be flyboy they wouldnt him anywhere near a CRJ700.
This isn't Australia, Marty, you'll be amazed what they'll let me near around these parts. Now go get some kneepads on and chuck some bags.
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby B77W-QOTS » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:52 am

It cant be flyboy they wouldnt him anywhere near a CRJ700.
This isn't Australia, Marty, you'll be amazed what they'll let me near around these parts. Now go get some kneepads on and chuck some bags.

Not tonight stupid, too busy dispatching flights, I guess 'run of the mill' CRJ FO's on $55K a year are in abundance in the USofA, guess we cant blame you even if that was your aircraft, as you wouldnt have been at the controls on the ground as your not 'gifted' with a steering device.
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby Sickbag » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:32 pm

I blame Continental.
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby 3WE » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:37 pm

I blame Continental.
Wrong. Airbus FBW logic..."What's it doing now?"
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby 3WE » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:48 pm

That ain't no cheap composite tail....(talkin' about the little plane here).
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby flyboy2548m » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:50 pm


Not tonight stupid, too busy dispatching flights, I guess 'run of the mill' CRJ FO's on $55K a year are in abundance in the USofA, guess we cant blame you even if that was your aircraft, as you wouldnt have been at the controls on the ground as your not 'gifted' with a steering device.
The CRJ was stopped, so I don't see what it matters where the NWS device is. Also, when did I get a raise?
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby flyboy2548m » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:52 pm

I blame Continental.
Wrong. Airbus FBW logic..."What's it doing now?"
This brings up two questions about the A380:

1. Is the left wingtip visible from the CA seat?

2. Does the tail-mounted camera have a wide enough lens to pan out to the wingtips and

2a. Are froggy A380s equipped with said camera?
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby PurduePilot » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:32 pm

I blame Continental.
Wrong. Airbus FBW logic..."What's it doing now?"
This brings up two questions about the A380:

1. Is the left wingtip visible from the CA seat?

2. Does the tail-mounted camera have a wide enough lens to pan out to the wingtips and

2a. Are froggy A380s equipped with said camera?
1a. How many airplanes exist where the wingtips are not visible to at least one of the pilots?


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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby PurduePilot » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:05 pm

Was going to post the youtube audio clip but Giles ninja'd me on the edit.

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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby Giles » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:12 pm

2. Does the tail-mounted camera have a wide enough lens to pan out to the wingtips
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby OldSowBreath » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:51 pm

Was an emergency declared?

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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby Verbal » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:41 pm

Were the services traditional?
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby B77W-QOTS » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:46 pm


Not tonight stupid, too busy dispatching flights, I guess 'run of the mill' CRJ FO's on $55K a year are in abundance in the USofA, guess we cant blame you even if that was your aircraft, as you wouldnt have been at the controls on the ground as your not 'gifted' with a steering device.
The CRJ was stopped, so I don't see what it matters where the NWS device is. Also, when did I get a raise?
I would have thought $55K would have been close to the mark, ohhh boy I bet you feel really stupid about hanging shit on the 'bagchucker' that earns $30K more than you a year LOL
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby flyboy2548m » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:53 pm

I would have thought $55K would have been close to the mark, ohhh boy I bet you feel really stupid about hanging shit on the 'bagchucker' that earns $30K more than you a year LOL
Not really. Even a million-dollar-a-year bagchucker is still a bagchucker. At the end of the day, you're still in the cargo hold on kneepads, and I'm flying.
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby Giles » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:02 am

Marty- do you think they are going to repair this one?

oh and BTW, when are you going to pay up on our previous bet?

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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby Verbal » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:11 am

I have never bagchucked for a living but I have upchucked on numerous occasions.
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby PurduePilot » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:51 am

I have never bagchucked for a living but I have upchucked on numerous occasions.
But only when flying on those wacky CRJs, I'm sure.

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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby 3WE » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:53 am

So, given that this is a relatively new aircraft type/low hours/low operations, and that there ain't a whole lot of them flying around- are the statistics now inferring that overall, the '380 is one dangerous-ass airplane to be on?
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Re: A380 Total Ground Disaster

Postby B77W-QOTS » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:00 am

I would have thought $55K would have been close to the mark, ohhh boy I bet you feel really stupid about hanging shit on the 'bagchucker' that earns $30K more than you a year LOL
Not really. Even a million-dollar-a-year bagchucker is still a bagchucker. At the end of the day, you're still in the cargo hold on kneepads, and I'm flying.
Problem is my role consists of 98% non bagchucking and 2% bagchucking I very rarely throw bags and Im on $30K more a year than you and you have shown no progress in nearly five years so to me that shows you are a very average airman, within four years you should have at least progressed to captian.
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