EMAS or "Near Total Airdisaster"

[Dummy Pilot]

NTSB CVR Transcript

Interesting read. Keep in mind that with brakes set waiting out the delay , the 'non flight rleated chatter' would not be considered a sterile cockpit violation. If you want to skip straight ahead to the takeoff roll, that occurs about page 19 of the .pdf. After the accident, they get the sound of "3 claps" on the CVR and I can almost guarantee that is the Captain smacking his forehead as he melts down with the realization that his career just took a really bad turn. Some of the talking at the end is only one side of a cell phone conversation that he is either having with the company or ALPA....I'm not sure which.

For the budding pilots out there, to avoid the post accident fog of confusion that this Captain clearly was in, your Flight Ops Policy Manual undoubtedly has a Post Accident/Incident checklist that will help you secure the aircraft and handle the passengers. After that ensure you carry the ALPA Worldwide Accident Hotline card in your wallet....follow the advice and keep your mouth shut and call the number.

[Sickbag]

Does this incident spell the end of the pilot's three port garage dream?

[Putt4Par]

NTSB CVR Transcript

Interesting read. Keep in mind that with brakes set waiting out the delay , the 'non flight rleated chatter' would not be considered a sterile cockpit violation.

However, this is being played all over the news as a "sterile cockpit violation"...you know, for shocking value. Now, if you look at most (if not all) of the accidents and incidents where a CVR is released, there is some chatter that shouldn't have been there. I'd like to think it is the exception and part of the reason that caused the accident. But part of me thinks it is actually quite normal. Is this rule really enforceable? If you are a captain and your F/O starts talking about his dead dog during taxi do you just tell him to shut up?

[Giles]

and I attribute the violation of sterile cockpit with, in part, short attention spans that are creeping into the workforce.
Ed

age and experience of the crew. also crew statements.
http://www.ntsb.gov/Dockets/Aviation/DC ... 439314.pdf

[Putt4Par]

Anybody knows what happened to the captain? suspended? reprimended? fired? nothing?

[Giles]

some pics here;

http://www.ntsb.gov/Dockets/Aviation/DC ... 439387.pdf

[OldSowBreath]

Question for DB and/or FB:

It looks to me like Capitain realized the incorrect flaps right about V1 and attempted to move them prior to abort. Would he have been able to continue the take-off or would have resulted in a complete air disaster? Would that flap movement have had dire consequences if they continued?